Bitcoin 2x from here?  That is hardly a BIG deal, even though surely it is not guaranteed, yet folks should be able to see the writing on the wall.. and to hedge their bets accordingly.

You (Btcdeybodi) don't even have two years on the forum, so I can hardly imagine that you could be reasonably excited about uppity, even if you might have had attempted to front load your bitcoin investment in the last couple of years.

In many instances it is going to be quite difficult to really get a decently sized bitcoin stash in less than 2 years (especially in the market conditions that we have been having for the past 2.5 years-ish.. mostly just UP, UP and more UP, sure with a few pauses along the way, but still mostly up since November 2022, and you did not join the forum until November 2023, in the event that you did not start building your bitcoin prior to your forum registration date.


We have been sticking around 10x  (or bitcoin 1/10th of gold's market cap) for quite a bit of time now, but yeah, that's o.k.... either this cycle or next cycle we are likely to catch and surpass gold, and then subsequent cycles make it towards 10x larger than gold and then 100x larger than gold and then 1,000x larger than gold.. .. which maybe there might be some stability in the 1,000x larger than gold arena.  Perhaps? perhaps?


I bet the ones that listen to you are an overwhelming minority.  Perhaps less than 1 out of 4.. that would be a good conversion rate if you were to have something like 1/4 or higher.

I surmise that even the ones who got into bitcoin, they are likely "in" and then "out" and maybe having a few shitcoins on the side.. so having some trouble in regards to the likely need that many of them have to be consistent, persistent, ongoing, regular and perhaps even aggressive in their bitcoin accumulation so that they can see where they are at after a whole cycle... but will they even last a whole cycle, even if they did get "in?"   That's even a smaller minority.. maybe 1/10 at best?


I would choose the bottle of water.. .but yeah, of course, there is no burden with the seemingly USB device as long as I get the pin code, too.  It is surely not going to weigh me down, since that seems to be part of the point that you are making.


Hardly a justification to waste time with gold... and I frequently have suggested if you cannot resist but to own both gold and bitcoin, then you should limit your gold to no more than 10% the size of your bitcoin holdings, and even 10% is likely too large.


I will grant you that even if it were to happen this cycle it would not be stable, and even the next cycle we might bounce back below number 1.


But.. 15 years?  Holy cow!!!

That is like finishing this cycle and then having 3 more cycles.   You are way too bearish about bitcoin.

Even my 200-WMA projection table shows bitcoin crossing over $1 million by the end of 2038, and remember the 200-WMA is meant to be reflecting a bottom price.


There is nothing wrong with keeping some portion of our stashes on various exchanges and with 3rd parties - yet hopefully the longer that we are in, the more our BTC stash grows and we may well have less than 20% of our stash on exchanges at any given time.

Ballparkedly, I think that I have something like 4% of my stack with various 3rd parties (such as exchanges)... sometimes it will change a bit.. but it has tended to gravitate downward over the the years...yet I could see if I might want to do some "BIG" sale then maybe I could move 2% or so to an exchange at a time, or maybe smaller amounts like 1% and then wait a month or two and then send another 1%, yet sure there could be circumstances that might motivate some larger sales.. Perhaps? perhaps?

That is correct.

I cannot imagine too many newbies with less than a whole bitcoin cycle who have gotten to a status of having enough or more than enough BTC, even if front loading the investment.

Sure, it is possible, but just does not seem too likely.

Now if you have been stacking for more than a whole cycle, then maybe at some point you might be able to say you have enough or more than enough.

But sure, it is up to each of us to establish how much is enough or more than enough and hopefully we do not calculate that wrong and stop stacking too early or even worse sell too much too early.


Careful with either trading dee cornz or using any leverage.

Bitcoin is nearly guaranteed as a great investment for an overwhelming majority of normies, as long as they have discretionary income and they act to stack sats with their discretionary income, yet leverage could change their investment into bitcoin into a loser, even when the BTC prices are going up.