Sighs..... Well I hope you are aware that the idea of a forever holder is quite vague and naive and I think that is partially what your thread is pointing towards. Every individual or organisation hodling bitcoin is hodling to eventually sell off at a preferred price the only entity I believe could be left out is Satoshi else everyone will eventually sell.

There's nothing wrong with selling at $80k like philipma1957 did when we first entered the bull run. If people don't sell bitcoin people can't buy bitcoin. I think we should preach P2P usage as much as we do hodling besides it was Satoshi's dream for bitcoin.