Lmao, we are already seeing the Erik Ten Hag impact on the team. I am not saying they are good, of course they won't win the league no matter who they get as manager. But you should be able to beat Hoffenheim, even after losing Wirtz and all others. It's clear that ETH is going to make this team into something terrible and there is no way that we are going to see them finish in top four.

I said before the season started that if they do finish in fourth place then I would consider them as great this year, because of all the people they lost. But looking at the first game, I would consider them lucky if they finish 7th now. They will probably not be in the top 10 and that is the sad reality of any team that is managed by him.