I'll bookmark the linked thread to look at later.


I agree that ETFs (Exchange Traded Funds) are largely not on topic here, yet at the same time, they are not necessarily used for trading (even though they have trading in their name), even though they are easy to get in and out of, so there are some folks who will trade them.. but there are are also a lot of folks who merely invest in them.. 

Generally speaking ETF fund investors are likely more sticky than some other kinds of BTC investors and not necessarily prone to sell easily, since they are frequently institutions, government and/or folks who have retirement plans.. and yeah they can be other kinds of investors, but yeah they do not hold their own keys when they buy those ETF products.. and yeah, we can talk about these matters in the thread like that BTCETFInvestor linked to.


Whether you have 8-digits of wealth in your investment portfolio or not, many guys here have a lot less, and many guys participating in these threads are trying to figure out solid investment strategies and building up their holdings (which they might not even imagine being able to get to 8 digits), yet there still might be needs to discuss whatever they are doing at their level, even though there is nothing wrong with guys who might have more wealth to discuss these matter, but there might be more difficulties to relate if you are dealing with some differing dynamics.. so it might not be very useful for you to participate in these threads if you already know everything and/or you are not trying to work with guys from where they are at and/or trying to relate to their situations.

It may well be true that Sim_card might not have had understood all of your points (to the extent that you had any good ones.. hahahahaha), yet if it seems that you are wanting to spin BTC ETF as if they were superior to bitcoin, then any other valuable message that you might have had might get missed because you are talking about a bitcoin derivative product rather than bitcoin...  and it might not even be practical for some guys to even try to get into Bitcoin ETFs rather than directly owning bitcoin, and bitcoin is likely the superior product for a lot of more normal people and/or even poor people, anyhow.


You might need some advice about not continuing to post in this thread about BTC ETFs.. It is not very courteous to spam this thread, even if you might potentially have some good ideas to the extent that your supposed wealth matters to anyone (or that any of us might not relate to your desire to brag, whether it is true or not who cares?

And  I am ONLY citing the full of your post, since you have already shown that you have inclinations to delete your posts.


BTCETFInvestor is too smart and too rich to hold his own keys. He is also likely smarter than all of us combined.... and sure his smartness, refusal to interact and wanting to prove himself might work out fine for him... perhaps?  There are a lot of newbies to bitcoin (like BTCETFInvestor) who are choosing not to directly buy bitcoin and they might not even know the difference between bitcoin and derivative products. 

Several of them even talk about the bitcoin ETF and/or other bitcoin derivative products that they might own as if it were the same as bitcoin.

When participating in threads like this, we want to try to learn from each other, but surely some folks sometimes will seem that they have an agenda or maybe that they are making shit up.. even if they might have some smarts, too.


Of course, you have a right to do whatever you like, yet I doubt we should be comparing and contrasting BTC ETFs in this thread, especially if you had created another thread on the topic.


We are not talking about "all cryptocurrency" here.  We are hopefully trying to talk about bitcoin.