Astana woke up and is online ,and sent me many messages with plenty of F#%# words asking me to respond again.  Again I'm just relaying information in this matter I have no money involved. I'll respond to shakaru because he and astana are two in disagreement over this matter. If I have time I can get some awnsers to some other queastions from other users. But I really take offense to being called a shill and sock puppet, I can assure you I'm very capable of making my own mind up about the character of people.

Now I  I'll respond to shakaru. I want to get some more information. So you did accept the $1700 from you fully admit this? From what I read is that you refunded him and paypal cancled it am I right? And in effect you actually still have his money and are not going to give it back unless forced to do so by your bank or paypal? Just to make things clear you haven't sent the computer game cards as was agreed to that the money was sent to you for am I correct?

If he hasn't recieved the game cards then I think you need to refund him despite what ever has happened and end this sorry episode. I don't understand why you need to be forced by the bank or paypal to return the money. The paypal issue was ruled in your favour so if you do owe him the money he gave you you should return it..

As to the threats he is angry, also I don't think he's ever mentioned he is going to kill you. I think if you return the money he will stop what ever he is doing, he does have other things to deal with like his girlfriend. He also told me he messaged you on skype on christmay day a few times asking for both parties to end this and just return the money.