no no no
not overclocking the "shit out of them"
Im talking clocks at 950/180 - with 440mhash no big deal at all. the 5870 is a superior mining card to the 7000 series we have seen so far
TOMS REVIEWED CARDS @ STOCK.
This isn't a hard concept. You can't compare one card @ stock to another card overclocked. 950MHz is an 11% overclock.
Look I also think the 7970 is a dud but to compare apples to apples you need to look at stock vs stock. So throwing out overclocked numbers is worthless. It looks like the 7970 can overclock 20%+ at stock voltage.