wow talk about a drama queen... any way like it's says everyone more than welcome to join
bs the whole reason for moving the discussion is that there is nobody there lolEDIT:
Hell there is nobody here either you know, if there were you would have been buried by now in objections.
people aren't stupid, they are just absent in this case.few want to pay 10% for a service they can easily get for 1% [not a stretch, doesn't take a genius]
time will confirm all this btw... leaving this thread as
a rec of who said what 
people who actually have time, interest and money invested in OC are here and on the main forum.
and everyone knows everyone is welcome on the OC forum so your only blowing smoke up your own ass right about now
if this were true... all these birds of a feather would not be
trying to move the discussion awaylol there is
no reason for moving it besides reducing its exposureEDIT:
in any case all those drooling on their wings can relax
i wont be speaking at the new thread, nor much more in this one.
there appears to be severe limits to depth of innovation available in this universe
which is pretty standard really, and that's the problem