It's totally fine by me to have the ROI discussion in another thread.

I ordered from Spondoolies and I will most likely do it again soon.
However, the tone of discussion here (I don't mean Spondoolies staff-you guys were great) with respect to opposing views is sometimes jarring.
After all, we are here to make sure (in a small way, perhaps) that bitcoin succeeds-at least I am.

That said-re chinese market. Guy, care to elaborate-you understand their marketing or price trends or whether they will develop 20nm or jump straight to 16nm?