Good point...  but the only thing we make these days is babies most other things pretty much made in China.  Kidding aside, I wont buy anymore miner, but if I do, I sure come to this forum to get some intelligent advice from you guys.  I love that link Dogie posted about Manufacture reports.  I think it should be cleaned up a bit and broadcast by senior members.  I am doing my tweeting but I am a peon compared to you guys.  That would help a lot of people.  Note BFL stuff being sold in retail, what people dont know these guys pocket almost all the funds and their preorders take forever to build.  That real problem is their greed stealing all the money and they dont adequately fund their dev and customer service teams.  Which means they dont really give a FU#$ when their customers get product or they mine with the Miners customer paid.  Luckily I havent used their RMA thank goodness.