Re: [HAVELOCK] DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Container
This is from another thread (do not want to derail their thread). But they couldn't be more wrong I am afraid.
Ok, lets see.
DataTank = Cheaper. We can build a few for you if you want, and I can almost guarantee you will love them and thank us later
- Price of DataTank =~$0.50/W = $500/kW.
- Ready to mine machine, including power, network, servers, liquid, everything required (brand name parts).
- Just add internet and a power feed from the grid
- Or even easier, let DataTank Mining run it for you and we charge $18/kW per month (+ a modest 20% managing fee)
- Reduces power consumption (lower leak currents, no fans, etc)
- Lower price is the whole point, why would we build it otherwise?
ASIC hardware side:
- ASIC hardware is now reduced to boards and ASIC chips.
- No more power supplies (ie. SP30 = 2x 1200W, $200-$300? so $100 to $150 per kW)
- No more enclosure ($50 less??)
- No more heat sinks + fans $25 less?)
- No more assembly etc (maybe $50 less?)
- No more heavy duty FedEx shipping charge (maybe $150 less? so $75/kW)
- $300 to $350 saved on each SP30 so far (and days or weeks assembly and purchasing time?)
For heat sink mining you still need a building, some CRACs or fans, and of course power:
- $100/kW cheap hosting (or more) = $600/half year
- Or build your own mine =
? few hundred dollars per kW China style to few thousand dollars per kW Washington State style
- 19-Inch racks ($300-$500 in China?)
- Switchgear, power distribution, cables and power strips? (DataTank has fully automated remote PDU)
- How much space for 576 of your SP30? That's what fits in a DataTank.
- 144 racks at 10kW/rack, or 72 racks at 20kW per rack (and 2,500 CFM / 1,180 L/s of air flow per rack)
(20 to 30 racks in shipping container, so a couple of shipping containers on the way from China just for your empty server racks, another $100 to $200 just for shipping)
- Roof, walls, building etc ?
- Fans, fans, fans. More fans. Even in Iceland. And dust.
- And so on.
There is no doubt in my mind. Heatsink miners will soon stay behind. And go deaf too
I've really enjoyed meeting and discussing IC with Alex.
Alex is a terrific guy, passionate about his business. I wish him and AC best of luck. Really. I think that the eco system will become stronger if AC will succeed.
I still believe that it's too expensive solution for Bitcoin space. I'm under NDAs and can't elaborate.
Alex is a terrific guy, passionate about his business. I wish him and AC best of luck. Really. I think that the eco system will become stronger if AC will succeed.
I still believe that it's too expensive solution for Bitcoin space. I'm under NDAs and can't elaborate.
Ok, lets see.
DataTank = Cheaper. We can build a few for you if you want, and I can almost guarantee you will love them and thank us later
- Price of DataTank =~$0.50/W = $500/kW.
- Ready to mine machine, including power, network, servers, liquid, everything required (brand name parts).
- Just add internet and a power feed from the grid
- Or even easier, let DataTank Mining run it for you and we charge $18/kW per month (+ a modest 20% managing fee)
- Reduces power consumption (lower leak currents, no fans, etc)
- Lower price is the whole point, why would we build it otherwise?
ASIC hardware side:
- ASIC hardware is now reduced to boards and ASIC chips.
- No more power supplies (ie. SP30 = 2x 1200W, $200-$300? so $100 to $150 per kW)
- No more enclosure ($50 less??)
- No more heat sinks + fans $25 less?)
- No more assembly etc (maybe $50 less?)
- No more heavy duty FedEx shipping charge (maybe $150 less? so $75/kW)
- $300 to $350 saved on each SP30 so far (and days or weeks assembly and purchasing time?)
For heat sink mining you still need a building, some CRACs or fans, and of course power:
- $100/kW cheap hosting (or more) = $600/half year
- Or build your own mine =
? few hundred dollars per kW China style to few thousand dollars per kW Washington State style- 19-Inch racks ($300-$500 in China?)
- Switchgear, power distribution, cables and power strips? (DataTank has fully automated remote PDU)
- How much space for 576 of your SP30? That's what fits in a DataTank.
- 144 racks at 10kW/rack, or 72 racks at 20kW per rack (and 2,500 CFM / 1,180 L/s of air flow per rack)
(20 to 30 racks in shipping container, so a couple of shipping containers on the way from China just for your empty server racks, another $100 to $200 just for shipping)
- Roof, walls, building etc ?
- Fans, fans, fans. More fans. Even in Iceland. And dust.
- And so on.
There is no doubt in my mind. Heatsink miners will soon stay behind. And go deaf too