it feels like projects like  these,scrypt, group buys.  are design to suk  coin out of the bitcoin community. just an secondary layer to the manufactures . dont think for one second the people runing these outfit  dont no what their doing, everything is goin according to plan for them. but i cant blame them for my failures , theres enough math  involve for me to make an educated choice.  just gotta give them an applause and say well played.