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firstly i need to state: im on travel now and cant follow all conversation, my bro bbxx is doing it for me. (big thanx from me to him).

beastymac: for what purpose are you wasting time of so many ppl ? thing about that ? just give me back my 3.1 btc because i send it to you by mistake. it is so.  i told you that so many times. you are lying in every of your post, just stop doing it. Look from other perspective on that thread. constant lies and not facing reality.

the truth is that when you rotate the large sums of btc by chance someone inexperienced has sent you 3.1 btc and for 5 months you do not want to give back, now the issue come out public and you are scared like shit so that other ppl not find out how dirty cheater you are. yes, you, out there in australia. little dirty cheater

so many times you told me: i dont have you on my list and now you say you have your private list and im there come on its soooo stupid ! you blackmail me that you send 1 btc if i give you snail mail address so that you can send me some crap ? its so funny, come on !

you are constantly asking me to prove im not a hacker but look at your self, you act like scared kid caught stealing candy. really. big boys do not lie.

look on that message again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8085792#msg8085792
show it to your mom. show it to your neighbor. show it even to a random taxi driver ! I bet they will say the same thing as me, my bro and other ppl in btc community : a little dirty cheater.

just send me back my cash and STOP that stupid waste of energy and time of so many ppl who follow the story. be a men.

we all could do sht productive instead of that discussion. since 5 months its going on ...

btw today i did so far 45 km cycling from koszice (SK) to Filkehaza (HU). i could do 15 km more if we would not be involved in that stupid discussion !

koszice: https://www.google.pl/maps/place/Ko%C5%A1ice,+Slovakia/@48.6974148,21.2391925,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x473ee01b67c6957b:0x400f7d1c6978bd0!2sKo%C5%A1ice,+Slovakia!3b1!3m1!1s0x473ee01b67c6957b:0x400f7d1c6978bd0

Pálháza
https://www.google.pl/maps/place/P%C3%A1lh%C3%A1za,+Hungary/@48.4694309,21.5037051,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x473f2d9d127eead1:0x28eb79cac9a804e9


i really hope it will be solved soon.

All you have done is repeat the same questions again. You have also not admitted that since your brothers order is valid this whole accusation is invalid since his order is waiting to be shipped or resolved depending on what his response is to my offer. All that has happened through this whole thread is a couple of post from the person who has made the accusation and pages of false accusations from you even though you where never actually involved in the deal. Why did you only appear on the 21/7/2014 and not during the previous 4 months when your brother was sick and you could have actually helped him out at the time. All you have done is hinder his accusation by spreading false lies that where easy for me to prove wrong. Also you keep posting the exact same messages over and over again they have already been responded to all you are doing is spamming the thread again with false accusations. Why did he think he would get a refund when it clearly states the terms in the group buy thread? It is apparent that your brother never read through the thread that provided all of the updates for the orders i can not help that. That is negligence on his part.

Even aside from communication issues by both of us his order is valid, his order is ready to ship or be auctioned off depending on what he would prefer. The communication issues DO NOT change the FACT that his order is valid. This whole accusation is based on his order apparently being in valid or that he disputes the date his order was sent for processing meaning it is an invalid claim and all you have done is spread slanderous accusations.

It is apparent from your first message sent to me dated 21/7/2014 and posted below. You and your brother have not actually read through the terms when ordering or even after ordering. It is apparent your lack of attempt in actually resolving this all you do is make outlandish accusations. You provide no evidence you don't even introduce yourself and how you where related to the deal because you aren't. You still seemed to think at the time that the refund amount being offered was for the 3.1BTC this shows that you did not familiarise yourself with the deal but just jumped in with wild accusations of "scamming". As you can see if you read through this thread your brother was not actually scammed all he has done is withhold information that is required to resolve the situation. You then threatened me with negative feedback in an attempt to extort 2.1BTC out of me saying i either give you money or my risk my account feedback being "ruined". I hope this whole ordeal has shown you that you can not just attempt to extort money from people for no reason and attempt to ruin people's reputation by making false slanderous accusations.



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This whole ordeal boils down to:
Your brother ordered on the 5th his order was sent for processing on the 7th meaning that after this date he is unable to get a refund he has then up until this point withheld his shipping details in the attempt of extorting money out of me and claiming that i have scammed him when in reality i have stuck to the rules of the group buy that he accepted at the time. Thus his whole accusation and your slanderous lies are invalid.

Sorry what are you referencing? If it is about the pm the answer to it was given in the quote below. How i will proceed is. I have asked curious miner to provide his refund details for the single chip miner refund totalling ~1.082. I have also offered to post the 5 chip devices free of charge upon receipt of postage details another offer i am happy to make is that i will auction off the 5 chip miners here on the forum and post they devices to the winner all funds received for the devices will be forward to curious miner. Those are the two options i am offering.


Also pictures of curiousminer's devices sitting ready to be shipped can be seen below:

Bbxx I have tried my hardest to resolve this issue with you and you have not been forthcoming all you have done is accuse me of false accusations such a the one stating that I do not have his order (a lie) that he had asked for a refund before his order was submitted (another lie). I have been truthful and honest through this whole situation. I now ask another time please have your brother provide his postage details and refund details as per the request made in this thread via pm to me so that this ordeal can end. I was not denying that he ordered from me I was just asking why he was not on the public list. I was able to go through my records and find the reason. It was because of an error or purposeful decision to withhold information regarding his order. Everyone has read your "proof" they have also read the information that I have provided showing that your brother's refund request was after his order had been submitted to the manufacturer and thus he is unable to be granted a refund. It is stated in the thread and those where the terms he agreed to upon his purchase of the devices through my groupbuy. That has been the way I did the gridseed, U1 and other groupbuys. For that reason I am sorry but I have to deny the refund for the 5 chip devices. I would request the details that I require for completion of this issue be submitted to me promptly so that this can be solved.

Regards, Beastlymac

The basics.

Order paid for by curiousminer on the 5th of February.

Order paid to manufacturer and confirmed on the 7th of February (verified with proof)

Order for the 1 chip miners can be refunded upon the completed confirmation requested in post #51

Message will only be accepted from Curiousminer NOT bbxx

Curiousminer order is still boxed and is awaiting shipment details

Curiousminer order details are in the private listing because his order was not completed and still requires postage details.
The messages quoted about the details not being listed publicly is because I was not at home and unable to check my documentation and only able to look through the public list. It was made apparent upon my checking of the private list that the reason he was not listed publicly was because of incomplete information.

I have provided all truthful information whilst bbxx has fabricated false accusations such as the one that I proved wrong with factual evidence that curiousminer's order was submitted to the manufacturer on the 7th bbxx attempted to claim this was un true based on no factual evidence.

It is apparent through the false accusations that bbxx has made and is still making that he either does not understand the situation or he is attempting to provide fabricated lies in the hope of convincing the bitcoin community that I am in the wrong and that I have apparently scammed multiple people? This is another fabricated lie. Every person who ordered in the gridseed groupbuy except curiousminer either received miners or a refund.

Refunds for the groupbuy that where sent out total above 40BTC showing that I happily refunded people who where eligible at the time.

Bbxx attempts to discredit me stating that I have "lied" are not backed up with any actual evidence he has repeatedly falsely accused me of not having curiousminer's devices ready for shipping I will post a photo as proof that they are when I get home. He has continuously made this accusation based off no actual proof and is that here say. I have answered all questions truthfully and will continue to do so. Bbxx continues to asked the same questions multiple times ignoring what has already been posted.

I have been open in attempts to resolve this issue

So I ask. Bbxx with your continued accusations please provide evidence to prove them.