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Re: Giveaway threads are not allowed
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IMJim
on 02/08/2014, 19:23:53 UTC
Quote from: MonetaryUnit on August 02, 2014, 03:09:42 PM
Quote from: mprep on August 01, 2014, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: IMJim on July 31, 2014, 09:59:59 PM
Quote from: mprep on July 31, 2014, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: IMJim on July 31, 2014, 09:31:38 PM
Badbear........may I ask........is there a proper way to run a signature campaign without risking a ban or are signature campaigns no longer allowed at all?

You thread is titled "Giveaway THREADS are not allowed", this somewhat adds to the confusion of what can and cannot be done as it suggests giveaways are allowed but cannot be the the whole topic of a thread, for example this suggest that I can do an announcement thread for a coin launch and somewhere in that thread can promote a giveaway for something like a signature campaign, but cannot start a thread just for a giveaway........but you just banned someone who did just that?

This ban was SOO damn unfair man, seriously.........it's like giving a guy a ticket for walking an old lady across the street, literally!  Dude was making a massive POSITIVE effect, people were scammed man........that scammer was allowed to post his scam here and many members lost their shirt because of this guy.  Someone steps in to help clean up that mess with the intent to help those that we scammed recover some or all of their losses, and you guys ban HIM?!  Bro, PLEASE PLEASE reconsider this action.......it's wrong!!
You can't start on-site alt giveaways, that includes but is not limited to giveaways in alt coin announcement threads, dedicated alt coin giveaway threads, application to IPOs by posting in the thread, distribution threads, threads in the alt coin section paying for opinions, advice or anything posted in thread, etc. Want to do an alt coin giveaway? Post it on another website or another forum (people have to apply there) and leave a link on the coin thread.

In your case, as I understood, the user was banned for breaking this part of the rule:

Quote from: theymos on January 27, 2014, 06:11:50 AM
<...>you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.
<...>

That includes payment for the sig since the person must apply on the forum thread to get it.

BTW, the thread was made by theymos.

Thanks for responding bud!

Can anyone explain exactly how a dev can run a giveaway for a BCT signature campaign without getting into trouble?  It sounds like an offsite page can be created explaining the giveaway and a link to that page CAN be promoted here on the forum, either in the coin's announcement thread or via signatures......but there seems to be a grey area here.

1. Make a website / make an account on another forum.
2. Write in that site/forum that you will pay some amount of coin X if they put a sig in their Bitcointalk profile.
3. Tell them they can apply to that sig campaign by entering the BCT username and their wallet address into the form you've made on that site or by posting their BCT username and their address on that other forum.
4. Put a link to that giveaway on the thread.

Alternative way (if the giveaway is a part of a coin ANN):

1. On the coin announcement thread on BCT tell people that they can get coins for putting a signature in their profile.
2. Tell them they have to send you a PM with their coin address.
3. DO NOT credit anyone posting their address or applying by posting on the thread. Report such posts to the moderators.

These methods I just explained don't require that much hassle (especially the alternative one), don't break the rules and don't cause spam.

Hi, my account "MUE" got banned, and, having actually taking some time to read the rules, I clearly violated the whole "giveaway" rule.
Hands up to that one, totally my mistake.

A user did post mentioning that wallet addresses weren't allowed to be published in threads, at which point I amended the ANN to say "please PM me your MUE wallet details for the early adopter reward", however I did acknowledge and pay several users who had posted their wallet address (I didn't think I would have to report their post).

If someone would be kind enough, and so I don't make another mistake, excluding the references to the early adopter reward, would the following be "allowed" as an ANN in the altcoin announcement section?

Many thanks

http://www.monetaryunit.org/launch/

Damn man, sorry you got banned.  Hoped I had warned you in time!  In case you didn't know I believe the ban on your account will be lifted in 10 days.