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Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
by
shojayxt
on 06/08/2014, 15:57:04 UTC




dev please fork, your coin is too good to be destroyed by one greed idiot.

I agree. Has anyone considered if they would be willing to accept a closed-source fork? I think dev has the capability to provide the software necessary to continue.

What do people think?

From a legal standpoint, the MIT license under which ByteCoin was originally published is pretty permissive.

I would not recommend it. No one would trust a closed source cryptocurrency.

I offered to publish an (open source) nVidia GPU miner provided some stratum support is available. What else do you want?


Closed source is not an option. It would kill the coin.

Any fork would only delay Christian. He would adjust his miner and be mining again quickly. What then? Another fork?

Christian has already offered the solution. Develop a stratum pool and cpu miner. He will then rebuild his GPU miner to work on the stratum pool and make it open source.

We have bounty setup to put towards the stratum pool and cpu miner development. When we receive enough donations, we will attract some talented pool developers (zone117x, LucasJones, etc).

How did that work out?



So is it just me, or are there only three pools and the fastest of those pools is poking along at a rather pathetic 40MH/s or so -- which means it's only 2.7% of the total network hash speed, so at best it might hit 20 or so blocks per day. Extremepool is even worse at only 9MH/s or so, so 0.6% of the network hash rate and perhaps 4-5 blocks per day? I guess everyone is just solo mining or something, or maybe there's some secret pool not listed in the OP?

Read the last part of crypto_zoidberg's announcement:


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Now lets talk about GPU.

As someone already know, anotherone just guess - GPU miner was implemented for wild keccak.
As I found out, GPU implementation works on enterprise GPU hardware 7 times faster than CPU, they use textures memory cache to get some boost until wild keccak scratchpad is not big enough. (Currently wild keccak scratchpad is about 7MB)
Because size of scratchpad is growing day by day, I expect that the problem is not permanent, but now it hurts this project very much.
Mostly it seen by currency exchange rate, it pressed hard.
I do not underestimate the seriousness of this situation, and I realize that these things can destroy a project despite the good ideas of ​​the coin. Than's why probably was not the best idea to keep making GUI while project was hurting buy GPU-cowboys.

Now I moved my focus on solving this problem and will make every effort to return the project to the way of fair distribution of coins.

One of the possible way out of the situation is to implement support of stratum-pool for BBR.
According to cbuchner1's post, they thinking of publishing their GPU miner with reasonable conditions:
But rejoice, there will be an open sourced Wild Keccak nVidia GPU miner published by us,
as soon as the Boolberry developer(s) provide

a) some stratum capable pool code for Wild Keccak
b) a cpu miner based on cpuminer-multi with some working stratum support

Due to the need for transferring and updating the Wild Keccak scratchpad this
won't be trivial, but it's also not impossible.

once a) and b) are available, it won't take long for us to either integrate this into
ccminer or publish a fork of cpuminer-multi with some nVidia support.

Christian


It would be a good, if Christian is not joking:)

Well, if someone who had experience with stratum pools or cpuminer-multi  would like to participate - he is welcome.
Anyway, i'll try to implement it since stratum is desirable technology in anycase.

Is there any another way to solve this problem ?
I guess yes, it is. If we gonna stuck with that situation for some reason, i'll do hardfork with changeing PoW algo(just fix details, i'm gonna leave blockchain-based PoW philosophy), and as well i'll change difficulty adjustment algo, since CN-coins have not the best one. But this is plan B, the worst case.


PS: Want to say also many thanks to dga for caring about simpleminer and pools.


Immediate but temporary fix is hardfork.

More permanent fix is to get working stratum for Wild Keccak algorithm. That way, gpu miner code will be released.


Looks like a hardfork would have been a better choice.  Now this coin is dead. 

It seems like someone wanted to kill this coin off.  It's the best implementation of a cryptonote coin so far so there is no reason for what's happening.  It has a working GUI, block chain loads in minutes rather than hours, aliases, and responsive dev.  The leading cryptonote coin is no better yet it dominates due to a couple wealthy benefactors pushing the coin and an obvious partnership with Poloniex to manipulate the market.  I'm glad I keep the vast majority of my funds in Bitcoin because in the end Bitcoin will be here and all these other coins are really nothing more than ponzi schemes that will be gone tomorrow.  The altcoin world is full of liars, cheats, scammers, and individuals lacking any sense of integrity and no coin is immune to the tactics they will use to line their greedy pockets.