"Ukraine has been independent for 25 years. That's plenty of time."
you're saying ukraine and it's territory is now up for grabs? are you excusing invasion in this weird perverted way?
No. I am saying that Ukrainians had enough time to fix things and to make their society healthy and prosperous, but they failed miserably. Ukraine has been slowly falling appart for years, from within, it's nothing new. And while their country is imploding, some Ukrainians, as usual, are trying to find excuses everywhere else but in their own yard.