I never expect anything when attempting to get someone like Camo to "think" beyond their own narrow view of what they perceive reality to be.

But unfortunately, because of the high number of postings he's made on this thread, in many ways he does represent DRK (to the newcomer or uninvolved bystander at least) and some of what he puts out there is beyond offensive. I for one don't want to be associated with misogyny-on-steroids like that as it just takes away from what we're all trying to achieve here and is unacceptable to the majority of decent people.

(and Camo, mate, before you launch into a bigoted, "you're in the 1% of people that 'get it', the rest are just fuckwits", tirade of an oh-so-clever retort, how about you just remember back to what happened at the RC4 launch and how the rest of us had to weather you going into a complete ninny meltdown the likes of which if it was someone else, you yourself would have thrown every possible contemptible tear-down and desecrating shit storm line at like "go and take your 'My heads up my arse and I don't know what I'm doing' whining to some other thread you idiot"....)