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Board Mining speculation
Re: We'd love board feedback on our concept: Combined Heating and Computation
by
ltorsini
on 09/09/2014, 23:24:32 UTC
This....is nothing like what we are doing.

Did you visit our site? Or are you knee jerking it?

For one, everything you and your website says is worded like a scam.

For two, this is the most absurd idea I've heard in my life.

This is a rube goldberg machine disguised as a futuristic innovative cooling/heating thingy.

Subtracting all the bullshit and obfuscation this is how I understand your contraption: A watercooling loop delivers heated water to an insulated tank which then goes through a radiator to heat the air when you need it.

What happens when the tank is full of hot water and the cpu needs cool water? Will it shut off the cpu? underclock? heat the room when it's is already heated?

Why would anyone buy this contraption for presumably hundreds of dollars when a $20 cpu+fan does essentially the same thing?


Hey there, no one is asking you to buy anything and, as a matter of fact, your reaction is exactly what we were hoping to elicit.  This isn't a scam, its a working device that heated my 1100sf apartment over the New York winter while it was mining Doge and folding for Stanford during testing.  

As for the technical questions, here's a shot: what will it do when the room is heated, it'll heat water for your shower, what will it do when the room and your water is heated, it'll run your refrigerator.  What will it do when your water is heated, your refrigerator is cold and the house is too hot - it'll regenerate (heat) a desiccant air conditioning system and cools the house.  

The whole point of this test bed is to test.  The current unit makes a solid 180F in the heating loop (today) with off the shelf parts - you are right a 25$ fan is a better idea for cooling... but were not cooling... this thing is built to make heat.  The economic model - your a whiz, maybe this will make sense: instead of spending 60% of the energy bill in a data center somewhere cooling the machines think about moving the machines to where there is a need for heat.  When we do this the heat you needed (wherever that is) is made by computation... not electric resistance heat (the link to the friction heater which is the exact mechanical equivalent of a resistance heater found in most electric water heaters today or the space heater you sit on the floor to keep your feet warm - which is pretty Rube Goldberg if you ask me) not burning gas and not running a compressor to pump the heat from outside your house to the inside of your house or vice versa when cooling.  

The cool (figuratively speaking) part is, now you aren't paying an gas/electric bill (or a portion at least) just to heat your house/water/etc, you are using electricity and computation to make that heat.  And, in a bit coin forum, I would assume you all know that you can make money on the computation that is being created for virtually the same energy spend you were using to heat water/air/etc.  

Do you think this might extend the payback of the mining rig a bit when you offset the roughly 3k a year the average residence spends a year to heat or cool water/space in your house?  Do you think it makes even more sense since you are no longer running the AC to cool the miner... like the data centers do 24/7?  There is a pony in there... think it over.  Talk about an absurd idea, sticking a miner in your house and turning on the AC to keep it cool was one of the most absurd ideas of all - yet how many people were doing that last year?

How do I keep it alive at those temps?  Not only do I keep it alive it runs like a champ at those temps, never misses a beat... well, it took a couple years of development to get it to those temps with off the shelf parts.  Give me a compelling reason and I just might tell.


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