Friends at ORA, if you feel this is becoming noise, and would be better on a different thread for mutual discussion, please speak up 
To the contrary... you ORA folks are starting to grow on me because of these discussions!
Well, that is a mighty fine compliment, thanks
I think we could start a new thread if everyone is happy with that. I agree with Darkhorse that we want to keep this as public as possible, and include as many true believers in crypto advancement as we can. The key goal is to further co-operation & collaboration between different groups of open minded people interested in furthering the interests of the crypto currency movement generally.
Everyone is welcome over at oraforum.org and we could start a new thread there, or we could start a new thread here on BTT, or we could always continue here in this thread. I do want to thank coinsolidation & nio for pushing this along. There is so much more to be gained for all of us from working together rather than trying to knock each other down. We are all kindred spirits working towards a greater good in the crypto movement, and there is so much future potential for all serious crypto projects, and as jl777 has mentioned many times before, crypto IS NOT a zero sum game!