Quick update, found bfgminer off again, odd since it shut down at 6.15AM, same time as yesterday. Internet by home plugs in the shed (over power line) may be the culprit, making a 40 meter utp cable tonight to try tomorrow. The custom bfgminer 4.2 shuts down right away, I restarted everything before trying it.
BCP about the leds, nearest one to the back usb port act similar on both units, one unit has an extra led, it blinks about 6 times very fast, then off for a sec, then blinks about 6 times very fast, then off for a sec., and so on.
I've set several back-up pools, no change, will look into that restart app. too, thanks for the tips lightfoot and bcp.