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Board Politics & Society
Re: Reversing privatization of important institutions?
by
BADecker
on 16/09/2014, 05:24:06 UTC
BADecker my head started hurting before I even started reading your post, given our past arguments I figured this would be a bunch of nonsense.

Mostly though I'd like to talk about one point of yours, this one:

1. Harm nobody;
2. Damage the property of no one else;
3. Fulfill the terms of all your contracts.
This is it. This is what the whole country is based on. It's listed in the constitutions and amendments. There is complete freedom regarding anything one can do as long as he doesn't break the 3. If you don't believe that there is complete freedom, it's because you used your freedom to limit your freedom, STARTING IN YOUR MIND.

There is hardly complete freedom, and that is completely objective, not subjective as you stated (ie in your mind).

Let's start with drugs, pot is illegal, cigarettes are not.  I am not a pot smoker, never have and never will, but I believe in it's legalization, because it does not break any of these three.  If you say it has to do with harming yourself, then look at cigarettes, alcohol, prescription and non-prescription drugs, knives, ropes, and any other substance that can be used to abuse and hurt yourself.  All of those items can harm you greatly, or even others, but they are legal while pot is known to be harmless and even beneficial, but it's outlawed due to the monetary interests of the paper corporations. Pot accounts for over half of all drug arrests, and a huge percentage of people who are in jail are there for drug related offenses.

Source: https://www.aclu.org/criminal-law-reform/marijuana-arrests-numbers

If we are truly free, then why are people placed in jail for doing something that doesn't break any of the three fundamentals you listed? The only way you can wiggle yourself out of this one in my opinion, is to state that even people in jail are free in their mind.  Which is a silly statement for anyone to make.

2. Damage the property of no one else? You state that corporations lose when they damage the property of others, but this is only in a very direct sense.  Consider the harm corporations have done to the environment (everyone's property) and the harm they do to people through pollution/fracking/toxic waste mismanagement.  What happens when on occasion a corporation gets called out on these misdeeds? A fine, a fine which goes to the government, not to the people they have harmed.  Often times, the fines are so low in comparision to their profits, that it makes more fiscal sense to take the fine, then to handle the disposals of the waste the proper way (which costs more than the fine.)

I feel like you must live in some sort of fairy land, where the walls are made of chocolate and the flowers are peanut butter cups.  Your world view seems a little off to me buddy.

First, the links in my post are where you would go to check out your freedom.

What it is about is, the USA is a common law of the people land. But you have to assert it through the courts (not all the time; sometimes letter writing will work). In order to assert, you need to know about it. Ninety-nine percent+ of the people don't understand about common law. That's why I provided the links.

The thing about the links is, they are really neat things. You can look at them, and admire their beauty. Notice that they all start with "http://." So artistic. But they won't do anyone a heck of a lot of good if people just admire their form rather than clicking them and figuring our what is going on inside the sites.

Here's another couple. Nobody's going to force you to study a little.
http://voidjudgments.com/
http://educationcenter2000.com/Trinsey-v-Paglario.htm

Slow down a little when you read these, unless you are used to looking at law and thinking about it.

Smiley