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Board Gambling
Re: OFFICIAL DICEBITCO.IN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE SKIPPED NONCES INCIDENT
by
coinnewbit
on 21/09/2014, 19:52:50 UTC
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Draw your own conclusions, I have mine. You probably think I'm biased as they were competition, but I have friends that were personally scammed by dicebitco.in to the rigging and I will never trust them again nor should anyone else. I'd be willing to help Dooglus relaunch his website if we can think up a more provably fair investment scheme just so people have a safe place to invest.

This is what I think Stunna wanted to say but it was not clear enough.

You should not trust anyone except him and Primedice.

Dice sites with invest option are dangerous because max profit easily can go above 20BTC and that's the max on primedice. This makes them more interesting then PD and they attract more whales while PD is left with faucet players.

All Stunna cares and wants is Primedice to be largest dice site and he will do everything he can to trash his competition.

One thing I don't understand, why there is a such need to come to competitors site and write anything in their thread? Especially trash talk and your own negative opinion and theories.

I'm not defending DB, I personably think they F*****UP and I would never invest or play there.

As for Primedice and Stunna honesty, here are some facts I did notice, you make your own decisions.

1. Primedice 2
 - highest paid signature campaign
 - ton of money thrown away on signatures, faucet etc.
 - A few if any users with positive account
 - People complaining of PD being rigged because server hash was changing all the time, overall shady provably fair where you had to wait 24h for secret seed.

2. Primedice 3 released
 - new provably fair introduced (proper one)
 - faucet reduced
 - signature campaign reduced totally, members dropped...suddenly there is no extra money for this
 - a LOT more people start to win, more people with positive accounts
 - overall cutting costs wherever they can

To me this means that they stole shit load of BTC on PD2 and now playing to be honest people helping others not to get scammed.



This is the most illogical string of thoughts I've seen on this thread. I think it's safe to say that primedice is the biggest bitcoin gambling site at the moment and isn't struggling financially.
1. Faucet was reduced as our userbase has increased by 5x which has attracted the attention of more people looking to exploit it. Faucet is still higher than PD2 faucet on average (our PD2 faucet was 250 for non-whitelisted users, now anyone can get to a 10,000+sat faucet by wagering).
2. Signature campaign was supposed to close several months ago, it hasn't been very effective in many months and has contributed to forum spam while being a major hassle to run.
3. There are more winners and more losers given that the our userbase has increased significantly
4. If I had bad intentions couldn't I just launch an investment site myself and undetectably scam millions?

If you want to debate me do it from your main account, I'm well aware that you are either the founder of luckynumber or an admin and have used that account for ill actions: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=621659.0 . I know that you are just trying to dodge negative trust on your other account and are farming trusts right now to launch your new scammy investment site. I felt extremely deceived when I talked to you via PM and gave you my reasons for why I felt the way I did about LN and it turned out that you were proven to be giftcoins/luckynumber. I'm not surprised that you choose to blast me at any possible opportunity granted that I did the same with your website, but please grow a pair of balls and do it properly.



If you check your profile you'll notice I gave you one extra reason to hate me. Time to move onto the next account, your princess is in another castle.

This is very concerning. It is never appropriate to respond to criticism (valid or not) with negative trust. You are essentially saying that anyone that does not agree with you automatically gets fugitive trust. I am not sure if your accusation is true or not, however I am almost certain that your accusation is motivated by the criticism that was given to you.

I think you were quick to jump to conclusions regarding the DB scandal as well. I would personally conclude that your problem with DB is the fact that they had previously posed a serious threat to competition with PD and you do not wish to compete. This is evidenced by the fact that you are continuing to make fact-less accusations against them that are based on nothing but speculation. IIRC you had put your negative trust on the DB forum account while the scandal was still unfolding, which likely fed the trolls that caused them to wish to abandon their project temporarily. I personally think they f'ed up and would not trust them with my money, but as a community I think we should give them the benefit of the doubt.

I would say that you appear to be trustworthy and that you appear to run your site on the "up and up" however I also think you are involved in some very sketchy business