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Re: delete
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rangedriver
on 27/09/2014, 17:07:24 UTC
BCX, we'd like to formally respond to this -

So what was your reason for attacking Monero and refusing to allow devs to fix your exploit?  

They claim they've already TW proofed XMR and do not need any help.

~BCX~

In your post on September 17th you stated that you had found very specific exploits in Monero. Immediately, and in direct response to you, we asked if you could disclose the vulnerability to us privately so we could fix it. You did not respond to our request.

Subsequent to that post, in which you stated that you had no need or desire to attack Monero, you announced that you would be attacking Monero, and gave us 72 hours notice. At no point since we asked if you would disclose the exploit privately to us did we, formally or informally, claim that we had "TW proofed XMR". As it states in our ANN on Bitcointalk: "the official core team members are (in no particular order) - tacotime, eizh, smooth, fluffypony, othe, davidlatapie, NoodleDoodle". We cannot control what anyone else says of Monero, and if anyone has implied or stated that a TW-style attack is impossible that is not a view that we share. We are not naive enough to state that Monero is anything-proof, and we cannot categorically state that you do or do not have an exploit as you have not disclosed any details to us.

In addition, we have said and continue to say that Monero is alpha-level software, and is nowhere near the level of maturity Bitcoin has (and Bitcoin itself is considered beta software by its developers). We regularly have people providing assistance to the project, be it financial or direct effort or the imparting of some unique observation to us. We warmly invite and encourage assistance from everyone. We would never reject the offer of help unless we had a very specific reason to do so, and we most certainly do not reject your offer of help. We want to continue to make Monero better, and so any assistance you or anyone else can provide is deeply appreciated by us all.

Therefore, we openly and kindly invite you to disclose the details of the exploit to us privately so we may analyse and fix any exploits that may exist. You may do so by sending a private message to this account, sending a private message to any of the named core team members as listed above, or sending an email to dev@monero.cc


Wow 25+ pages have been added to this thread since I have checked last. bcx should send the monero guys a bill for pr. Poloniex has definitley made a few more btc off this whole bcx thing with near tripling of volume pre bcx. But nonetheless it certainly is appearing that the Monero team isn't as confident that no exploit is happening as the bagholders are.




Bagholders? I was kinda following your drift until you dropped the 'B' word - always a sign of malicious intent.

It goes without saying that all threats to any system's stability should be treated seriously - whether that be a terrorist threat to nation's borders, or a threat to an individual's life, or a situation like this.

Monero commands a market cap of close to $5 million. It is only reasonable that a responsible development team would treat the matter as seriously as the defense force of a nation state would treat intelligence of malicious intent against it. I can't see it occurring in any other light - how would you like the situation to manifest itself? Anything in particular you have in mind?

It is worth remembering that Monero is functioning, as intended.

Until that changes, where is the story? Would you like to talk about the questionable virtues of an ego-driven malady of an individual that cares not for the fortunes of a currency that seeks to be anti-bank, anti-government, pro-libertarian, and pro-anonimity. Who is BCX working for anyway? Does he even care about anyone other than his own glutenous ego?

Perhaps in time, BCX will transpire as being a force for ultimate good, constructive and positive. After all, an all-weather test for Monero is actually incredibly helpful moving on into the future.

But until then, lets just keep sight of what defines 'considerate constructivity' and what defines 'opportunistic cuntishness'.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not affiliated with any entity - merely an observer.