secret meaning unrevealed till after the roll..his example you see a hash of the two house seeds BEFORE the hand so there it would be in fact provably fair!

All provably fair systems reveal the server seed hash before the roll of course. Like I said, do some reading before making an even bigger fool of yourself.
..as for Eric i dunno how you are trying to spin it , all i'm saying is he is known criminal and this is who you are arguing as the legit originator of your such "fair" system? ROTFLMFAO!!!!
1. Eric bought the site from a developer who wasn't willing to keep running it once it took off. He's a business man, not a developer.
2. Even if he did first coin the term "provably fair" (and I don't know if he did) it wasn't a new concept, just a new term. As I said, bitjack21 was provably fair before SatoshiDice was launched.
3. "Known criminal"? Ad hominem attacks like that don't hold any water when we're discussing the merits of a mathematical proof. You can call Pythagoras' theorem names as much as you like, but you won't stop it being true.
~ look the guy who designed the American penny was a wanted fugitive from Europe!! lol ..i'm just sayin'