Well, looks like the discussion got derailed in the last two pages.
The treatment of women is relevant to the topic because I was advancing the theory that the majority of women on this forum are "stealth." That is: not announcing their gender at all. Women do get treated differently than men:
Why Aren't Women Advancing At Work? Ask a Transgender Person.Ben Barres is a biologist at Stanford who lived and worked as Barbara Barres until he was in his forties. For most of his career, he experienced bias, but didnt give much weight to itseeing incidents as discrete events. (When he solved a tough math problem, for example, a professor said, You must have had your boyfriend solve it.) When he became Ben, however, he immediately noticed a difference in his everyday experience: People who don't know I am transgendered treat me with much more respect, he says. He was more carefully listened to and his authority less frequently questioned. He stopped being interrupted in meetings.
I am concerned that over 20 people saying "HI" can add up to something
like this. It is attention you don't always want.
Loved the video, but what is that girl complaining about??? Wtf?? I wish guys here in the UK were more like that (maybe not walking next to me for five minutes like that guy did, that would freak me out). But seriously, getting ignored by EVERY guy is horrible too, it kills my self-esteem every time. The prettier you are the more they ignore you over here, it's like an unwritten rule in Britain. No wonder some girls in America have huge self-esteem even if they're not pretty. Come on British guys you can do better. And to all American guys out there, please don't change! Compliments are good, it's a shame some bitter girls cant appreciate that.
Generally, just saying "Hi" can not be considered harassment. Were some of the men in the video crossed the line is by
demanding attention. For example, at about 19 - 27 seconds:
Man in red shirt:
"Hey, what's up girl!
How you doing?
Somebody's acknowledging you for being beautiful.
You should say thank-you more!"
Communication in person starts with non-verbal cues. The woman in the video was dressed down, looking straight ahead (slightly downward), and walking with a purpose. Everything about that says "leave me alone."
While anti-social persons like myself may miss such cues, one or no word responses also hint that no conversation is wanted.
I personally found the
SIRC Guide to Flirting instructive. I doubt extroverts need the advice though.