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Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;)
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JayJuanGee
on 09/11/2014, 04:07:03 UTC

your being too extreme and over generalizing... show me a complex society without some community entities (otherwise known as government). 

This is where you go wrong.  Community != government.  There's a MASSIVE difference between the two.

I'm going wrong... I don't think so.  If we are talking about taxes and if we are talking about pooling of resources, then community and government have a lot to do with one another.

The mere fact and gripe that people have concerns government entities and government officials being corrupt and influenced by money and even legally so, does NOT remove the fact that government is an arm of the will of the people and is meant to serve such.. the fact that it frequently does NOT does NOT mean that the correct course of action is to abolish it completely.

In fact, you are suggesting the burden is on me to make such arguments in support of government, and it is NOT on me. The burden remains on these various nut job cases who are asserting that we get rid of all government and that we get rid of all taxes and we convert to some kind of pie in the sky volunteerism.  These nut jobs do NOT realize that they are nut jobs in spite of putting forth pie in the sky visions, but NOT really outlining how exactly they intend society to transition from its current state to the government free version that they non-specifically describe.