Peter exactly distilled both our arguments, along with NL's. so yeah, i'm happy.
why do i put up with brg444? i don't know. not that i can do anything about him. he does help me distill and crystallize my thoughts on this issue which is good. i know exactly where my objection lies: the SPVproof. aka offramp.
So you prefer centralized, less secure, more opaque off-chain schemes that can eventually lead to concerning disincentivization for the miners to secure the network and creates considerably more fractional reserve risks.
That's rather strange
