Yeah, they have learned and I am sure they would handle many moves very differently, but I have to echo what lazard said about Pnosker.

As I said above the devs are sort of honest guys, what I meant with that "sort of" was exactly same what lazard implies. I certainly don't say Patrick is a scammer or con artist in the sense of real scammers like how BitBay operates, I don't say that Patrick masterminded a scam with VeriCoin, not at all, but only the blind can't see by now that Patrick has a very-very shady side, which was not obvious to people at the beginning when they invested in this coin.

In my opinion the most important issue with Patrick - which issue is on the border line with scam -  that he presented his team as a group of professional developers that is committed to the coin and included in that group Dave - who then since the start is non existent. Patrick sent the following message to investors: we are scientists plus we have a Microsoft developer and we are here for real and for the long term. Any investors would think, if a Microsoft developer put his reputation on the line then it must be a serious venture. Now as we can see the commitment is not real. You can twist it whatever you want, but that was a calculated baby-scammer move, lets present Dave as part of the team, lets gain the trust of the investors with a professional team image that includes a Microsoft developer, and then lets dump our mined shit on the market. That happened, we both know that.