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As recently as the middle of this thread I was much more on the 'warmist' side.  You could see in my initial post here some time ago that I posited that corporate influence might have some effect on the science, and that whatever the case, the same old spam from the 'denier' side could get tedious and justify the ban.  What I did NOT do was to really take a side simply because I had not gotten around to studying the issue.  Since then I have, and the hypothesis that 'climate change' is part of a larger program of theft by a certain class of powerful people has remarkable explanatory power across a broad range of observations.

Most of my friends, family, and co-workers are greenies, and some of them fairly hard-core about it.  I know they are neither bad nor stupid people.  I think they've just been had.  Even the DEQ bitch who has been hassling me