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Board Gambling
Re: [SafeDICE.com] 0.5% House Edge - Fast Bet/Deposit/Withdraw - True Provably Fair
by
dooglus
on 26/11/2014, 07:41:45 UTC
Just cause a site offers provably fair verification doesn't mean it actually is. It's been proven through someone creating a site showing it that if the server can predict a trend you use such as always betting low or always betting high, a rigged server can give rigged seeds assuming that person doesn't change their pattern or their client seed.

I think I know what site you're talking about. Someone (vlees, maybe?) made a site which brute-forced a server seed from your client seed to get you exactly the roll that would make you lose. His point was that you need to pick an unpredictable client seed, or the server seed can be chosen to hurt you.

Almost every site these days uses the same server seed until the user asks for it to be changed, which renders this attack moot. Just make sure you pick an unpredictable client seed *after* noting the server seed, and the site can't mess with you in the way you're describing.

It was one series but for me enough to decide I'll pass here. Probably isn't a rigged server but whatever.

You don't need to be uncertain. Your series was rigged or it wasn't. Verify your rolls and find out. If it was rigged you owe it to the community to out the scammers.

Hey dooglus why are you always defending this site?

Are you in anyway connected with it?

You are here everytime. Even more than Safe Dice (user) himself.

Hi.

I'm not defending the site, I'm arguing against the clueless posts people keep making. Maybe the site is a scam, but not for the reasons people are coming up with. If anyone has any evidence of foul play, I'm more than happy to hear it - in fact PM me just before going public so I can try to get my coins out. Wink

When someone says "this site is a scam because [invalid argument]" and I debunk their invalid argument, that's not me defending the site, it's me debunking their invalid argument.

And no, I'm in no way connected with it. There's 20 BTC in the bankroll, and it's hardly growing. If I was trying to promote the site, I'd be a bit better at it that that!