Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on November 28, 2014, 03:37:37 PM

Let's pick apart your completely nonsensical reply.

Quote from: fire000 on November 28, 2014, 11:30:50 AM

JUST A CORRECTION TO THE ABOVE STATEMENT BAN IN FACT THE HIGHER PAYING POOL.....

now to explain it lol

Sure would have been nice if you actually bothered explaining the completely false statement you just made. But instead, you lead off with some rambling BS about Eligius. What does Eligius have to do with anything here? The answer is nothing. Let's move on.

Quote from: fire000 on November 28, 2014, 11:30:50 AM

take that eligius number that is a PPS pool like BAN but the difference is BAN is paying a bounus 10 percent on top of the normal 100 percent paying PPS now factor that in to the eligius numbers

10 percent of a not 100 percent paying PPS pool (due to the share shelving that eligus does) is 15.8041 x 0.1 = 1.58041

So when you add that 10 percent extra in BAN has paid out 17.38451 so cough cough you want to correct your statement re p2 and ban.... AS it in fact it the other way around... AS BAN ALSO DOES NOT SHELF SHARES AS eligus does so that gap even higher when you factor in the shelf shares that eligus does

SOME simple math of the eligius PPS numbers show quite clear what the BAN payout would of been for the same time frame

PS they also merge mine now so that gap is further when the merge mining factored in again a PPS payout

Oh look... you make ridiculous claims about the Eligius payout system, how BAN would have done better and your conclusion is that I need to revise my statement on p2pool. You offer no proof of any of your claims, which I guess I can understand since the claims themselves have absolutely no basis in reality.

Quote from: fire000 on November 28, 2014, 11:30:50 AM

Also something else that caught my eye is this part of the pool test results here So, none of his tested pools have met expectations. However, p2Pool still wins here at 93.83% of expectations. You can add another 6 percent to the number above of 17.38451 as BAN is paying out at 100 percent of a expected rigs earn day in and out before the 10 perecnt bonus is factored in a simple 24 hour test would show this clear as days that the BAN PPS is basically right on the money with a rig expected earn via the stats on the homepage and what any bitcoin calculator splits out as the expected earn -/+ 1-2 percent to allow for a avg hash ... <<<< this comes back to the Eligius mod PPS system not paying a true 100 percent PPS due to the share shelving on their PPS so you would have to also look at the percent difference there as well of what the expected earn would of been on the rigs in question and also add that difference in to make up for the difference in the 2 different pps payouts .... so that 6 percent could well be 10-15 percent have not sit there and done the numbers to find how much more BAN is paying vs eligius on the PPS front with out factoring in the bounus

You're still on Eligius and trying to convince everyone that BAN is going to beat it by 10-15% but offer absolutely no proof. Good luck.

Quote from: fire000 on November 28, 2014, 11:30:50 AM

NOW to the second lot of fud here

Miners and dates, with hash rate and expected earnings
7/20 - 7/30, 2xS1 @ 400GH/s. Expected: 0.1121BTC
7/20 - 11/26 1xS3 @ 440GH/s. Expected: 1.0367BTC
7/20 - 11/26 1xS3 @ 420GH/s. Expected: 0.9896BTC
7/20 - 8/1 1xSP10 @ 1.35TH/s. Expected: 0.4509BTC
8/1 - 11/26 3xS3 @ 1.32TH/s. Expected: 2.6692BTC
8/9 - 11/26 3xS3 @ 1.32TH/s. Expected: 2.3875BTC

Expected total earnings from mining: 7.646BTC

Actual mined BTC: 8.61186032BTC

Difference: 0.96586032BTC

No FUD here, just solid numbers that can be verified from the addresses I provided. What's that? Oh yeah, it's called proof. Something you have completely neglected to provide.

Quote from: fire000 on November 28, 2014, 11:30:50 AM

P2Pool has beaten expectations for the time period that BAN has been in existence by 12.6%. In other words, p2pool has paid 112.63% of expected earnings. YOU MAY WANT TO SIT THERE AND ALSO FACTOR IN THE 10 percent bonus on the expected total earnings from mining: 7.646BTC THAT BAN PAYS which brings BAN UP TO 8.4106 btc and then factor in the NMC blocks they have hit in this time

Um... 12.63% beats 10% every time. Not sure how you're convincing yourself otherwise. NMC? That's not included, but if you want to, I will. I merge mine not only NMC, but also DVC, IXC, I0C, FSC. Oh, p2pool also has a donation mechanism, whereby anyone can donate as much BTC as they want. Should I also include that into this? If we do, then my numbers only go up, since during the timeframe of the experiment, I mined blocks of all of the merged coins and received donations.

Quote from: fire000 on November 28, 2014, 11:30:50 AM

YOU will more than likely find ban even out does P2 pool in this set of numbers as well

or comes very close... it NOT 12.6 percent as claimed above as the poster forgot to factor in the bonus payments on top of the PPS and the nmc blocks.... It more likely they are on par or BAN has it nose in front just earning wise on this second set of data....

I didn't forget anything, and I never claimed p2pool beat BAN by 12.6%. I clearly laid out what was mined on p2pool during specific timeframes. The first was during the entirety of BAN's existence and the result was that p2pool paid 112.63% of expectations, which does in fact beat BAN's 110% of expectations - meaning p2pool beats BAN by 2.63%. The second timeframe, which you completely ignored in your reply, p2pool paid 174.86% of expected earnings - meaning p2pool beat BAN by 64.86%. I even showed numbers from a long running experiment in which p2pool has from February 1 until now beaten two highly recognized pools.

So, in conclusion, p2pool has beaten BAN's payouts for the entirety of BAN's existence. I have provided absolutely irrefutable proof of my argument. I invite anyone who has been mining on BAN for the same timeframes to please join this thread to show your numbers so we can all see a true and honest comparison between the pools.

Right to put this is simple question form for you lmao

IS eliguis NOT A modify PPS paying pool which shelves shares Huh

? YES THIS IS FACT

IS BAN NOT A TRUE PAYING PPS POOL Huh

YES this is fact...

So of them 2 questions one have one that pays at 100 percent of a rig expected earn in BAN and the other does NOT

NOW TO SPELL THIS OUT LOL

NOW off your numbers above the test rigs expected earn was Using his 6 S1s @ 1080GH/s total, expected earnings for that timeframe (2/1 - 10/30) are: 18.0886B <<<< this is the BAN payout as it is a 100 percent payout of expect earn day in and out... AS PPS works to the expect earn....

SO to start with under ban in that test data you would of earned 18.0886 btc then factor in the 10 percent bonus they pay so that bring it up to 19.89746 so you would of earnt a full 2.5 btc more than the P2 pool

that paid out p2pool - BTC16.9718.... IT not that hard to work out and your data just backs up BAN killing P2 pool for payouts

Again you may want to correct the false claim