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Re: Primedice | The Most Popular Bitcoin Game | 1% Edge | Active Chat | Free BTC
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NLNico
on 04/12/2014, 11:30:55 UTC
.... you feel i cheated you or what? i dont understand how primedice can be provably fair and pvp not, it is clear that they use the same system.

This confuses me too?!

"To create roll numbers for PVP, the same process described above is used with a minor change. The server seed is your seed and the opponents seed is the client seed."

This means that if the last person is the house, they could cheat. Because they know already the opponent's seed and could generate an own seed that have a favorable outcome. My guess is that you couldn't be cheated if you are last to act and already see the HASH of the opponent's seed (is that possible? or you never see any hash?)

Either way, I personally do not think PD cheats. But it is right to say PVP is not really provably fair. I personally don't know a real solution to it.

i am reasonably confident that both of us were challenging and accepting during our betting sessions, so I was not consistently last to act. I did not consider this possibility. How would an oponent be able to see what seed i have set? even in theory?

Only if your opponent is the house. The house can obviously see what seed you use with PVP. This is different from normal play cuz normally u see a hash of the serverseed in advance.


Obviously PD is not cheating and I am sure they can make enough money the normal way. But just explaining.