If you are speaking about the joys they have in this Universe while they are still imperfect, yeah they rejoice in thinking they are the few ones what won't be perpetually burned with fire. Yet they forget, no such promise was made to them. We are not allowed to judge ourselves and must wait for the narrow gate ex post facto to receive our fate.
Was speaking about the joys of Heaven. Isn't the hereafter the thing you were talking about?
But you've not been made such a definitive promise. So why are you so happy about what you are not assured to receive? (Not to mention that nobody has every verified the promise is not a fable).
It is probably because you don't want your idealism to die. This probably inspires you to act ethically in this life.
Everything in life is done on faith. Nobody does anything with the absolute knowledge that there will be a certain, specific outcome. So, when God promises us in the Bible what the outcome will be, we accept the promise based on faith. Our faith is made stronger when we see the outcome of breaking His laws for us for this life. We have trouble and pain when we break the laws for this life. So, why ask for the big trouble by not accepting the salvation He provides?
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But I am still idealistic. I believe we can work for ethical technological innovation.
Nothing wrong with that.
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So what is the difference in our motivation? I believe I must act proactively, whereas you likely believe it is sufficient to conform for as long as you don't do what you regard to be evil.
The motivation is likely the difference. I don't know what your motivation is. Mine is that God has given me this life to use in all the ways that I see fit to use it while I live it.
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Yet collective religion and the religious have done evil too.
I don't see a difference.
I don't see a difference.
Collective religion is a fiction. All religion is people individually exercising their strength one way or another.
The difference is this. The universe and laws of nature work certain ways. If you point the gun at you foot and squeeze the trigger, you will wind up limping to the hospital. It is the laws of nature.
When God says, do not shoot yourself in the foot, He doesn't say it to limit your freedom, or to take joy away from you. He does it for exactly the opposite reason, even if you don't understand why. Just obey... or not.
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Exact copies of each other so nothing changes, nothing is alive, and nothing exists. Read my exposition of this in my blog essay, "Information Is Alive".
You seem to want to limit God. Math is a language of man, not of God.
If God can't talk to me in a language and logic I can appreciate, then what is the point?
If I just blindly and illogically accept delusion that suits me, then what sort of creature am I?
Good point. Why did you stop listening to Him by reading the Bible no longer? The things you need for life are written in there. The things you can't understand, like things about the 156th dimension, were left out, because you can't fathom them anyway.
