On his site in his bio he says he made and then lost almost a million dollars... I wonder if this is his obsession with bobsurplus & his cronies.  Yea I lost money due to bob only about 2.5 btc but I'm not mad at bob I'm mad at me. I fell for the scam, even seeing all the warning signs & alarms going off. He'll people were comin to the thread and spelling it out, but their message got lost in a mindless rant and I blew it off as fud. I seen the up potential in bay and for me outweighed the risk. You live and learn. I definitely won't spend the rest of my life stalking him like some do, I have better shit to do and a life. But hey darkcoin has never let's me down. No matter what I lose on other alts at the end of the day darkcoin is still ticking along. I thought bay was going to be my next love as it could have been.