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Re: why all the hate for the welfare state?
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criptix
on 31/12/2014, 00:51:17 UTC
the tax list contaigon quoted was bullshit, average taxation of 47,5% in germany?Huh  Cheesy

by chance im living in germany for a long long time now and the max income tax is 45% tax if you earn 250,000+ € per year my friend.
its definitely not the average taxation of a worker in germany.

Looks like the middle class pay 42% just in income taxes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany#Income_tax_rate_in_2010

Social security adds another 20% plus the employer pays 20% (which is the same as the worker is paying because it is taken from cost of employees and thus salaries are lower by 20%):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany#Social_Security_Contributions

So that is 82% tax.

Then you can add the 19% VAT:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany#Tax_rate

STOP YOUR BULLSHIT. SOCIALIST PIGS!

Btw, Germany will totally collapse in heaping pile in 2015 - 2016. I am going to be laughing at you socialist pigs.

this is from 2007:

http://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1768/umfrage/durchschnittlicher-einkommensteuersatz-pro-steuerpflichtigem-nach-bundeslaendern/

the average income tax was less then 20%.

what your posted from wikipedia is indeed correct, but it just explains the tax bracket of our income tax law.


@social taxation

its only 20% if you take your pension insurance into it. you are free to to care yourself about a future pension.
it is just law because we in germany dont want to care of people that dont do something for their pension before they get old and cant work.
that is why either you have to pay in a state controlled pension fund as a tax or pay into a private owned pension fund.

@vat

i explained earlier there are two tax brackets for vat, one is 7% and the other is 19%.
guess what 19% are? right, luxury articles.


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why are you mad anonymint?
82%... come on.... and that without vat...

and where did i tell you that you have a derangend mind?

and btw. im not socialist, im pretty liberal.