Re: why all the hate for the welfare state?

Quote from: criptix on December 31, 2014, 01:32:24 AM

@pension insurance.

its 20% together, so 10% the employee, 10% the employer (social tax is always half/half)
but you are correct that it is mandatory (nobody can say no to pension insurance, except you have no income of course)

40% for all Social Security as I linked to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany#Social_Security_Contributions

Quote from: criptix on December 31, 2014, 01:32:24 AM

@welfare state

imho it is just about the balancing.
there is only one solution for the people that can't live for themself in our society (because of physical or mental illness).
welfare or euthanasia.

if there is another solution please help me understand.

The optimum solution is smaller community governments that do local welfare, as I explained with a photo here:

Quote from: contagion on December 29, 2014, 05:59:58 AM

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20100525/Little-White-Church-Hill-1550025.jpg

My simple dream; what is all my babble really about?

I envision local, townhall direct hands on government (where you know every body within your Dunbar number limit) will be the surviving and thriving form of limited government that I envision will be enabled and sustained by the paradigm I promoted in my prior 3 posts.

This will be the like the warm feeling of the little white Baptist church on the hill in Alabama where I sang songs of contentment and faith with my extended relatives who were farmers.

I visualize closer communities and stronger interpersonal relationships. I view happier and more socially engaged families.

I visualize we can return to communities while still interacting internationally via the internet for maximum division-of-labor and human prosperity.

I can dream can't I?