I am really struggling to understand this; what is it about posting a link to my logo (instead of posting it as an image) which breaks the rules you have written right there? How does what I did prevent everyone from seeing it?

I am going to continue asking: may I have my stake back? I believe the decision to remove it was founded on a baseless, strange TECHNICALITY which had no reason to be there. Furthermore, it was just not made obvious enough that these were your intentions.

Thank you for your support. You seem to be the only person to agree with my point of view here.

Yes it did satisfy the conditions. I was removed from the list. There was a 'y' next to my name, because I checked, hence the reason It's only now, with the final list, I have noticed my absence. Please don't make me come to the conclusion that you're a liar.

No one was responding adequately there. I also thought it was so stupidly outrageous that the whole community should know. But apparently you, and everyone else, don't care that someone has had their stake taken from them, so long as you have yours. You just want to push us away to argue somewhere where you can't see us. You obviously don't care about me, so why should I care about you? If my issue was resolved appropriately then none of this would have happened.

Also, 'MY ONE issue' happens to be my stake being removed for no reason; nothing trivial. I want answers.

Unfortunately I very much doubt my 'issue' will be resolved. Stubbornness is a disappointingly common trait.

Once again, I can completely rip apart your response. I haven't had a single explanation from anyone yet that makes sense. It's like everyone just obeys and sides with Utopian's decisions like sheep, even if their arguments make no sense.


Finding another a person as described wouldn't do a thing to counter my claim that the reasoning behind my removal was 'baseless'. It would just mean it's baseless AND discriminative. It is baseless in the fact that it makes absolutely no sense.


Again, you're distracted by the quality of the logo. It was only ever an 'idea' for the logo and there are plenty of logo submissions which are of similar quality still with their stakes. It is a non-issue in this argument.


The fact that I posted it as an outbound link to hide it is preposterous; you actually made me laugh. I wrote it in huge letters AND wrote a description accounting my thoughts! Here is my original post (apologies it is an outbound link, I know you HATE those): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4899256#msg4899256

'Chasing outbound links'? Really? It is a single click of the mouse.


You can't start criticising one method of achieving a stake against another. I simply used one of a variety of methods detailed in the original post to claim a stake. Saying one method is superior to another lacks any kind of argumentative strength. 


The only reason I had my stake REMOVED (not simply not added, but removed after being accepted for weeks!) was because it was linked to Imgur and not displayed right in the post. I regret making the decision to make my post look tidier now. And, for the thousandth time, it's quality is your opinion and is NOT an issue here.

I couldn't possibly care any less if what I am saying is annoying you. Your complaints mean absolutely nothing to me. All I am doing is standing up to myself against the apparent injustice against me.

Again, it's all well and good you saying this, comfortably sat on your own stake. It must be very easy to passingly declare with false authority that I am, for some strange convoluted reason, less-entitled to one than everyone else. I wonder if you would amicably submit to losing your stake for a disturbingly baseless reason.

I would have gone away and improve my logo idea, if it had been made clear to me immediately that my post was somehow 'inadequate'. However, the quality of my logo is not the issue here. It's the way it was delivered; as an Imgur link. Why should I have to go away to 'improve' my logo when no one else who made logos of similar quality have to?

I honestly cannot fathom why this has happened. At all. I will continue to argue my point until (a) I get my stake back, or (b) I understand why I lost my stake. Only when I get my stake back will I 'develop my logo a bit more' and contribute to this community. As I've said before, I WANT NEM to succeed. I WANT to be part of this. I am NOT trying to cause a fuss. The fuss has been caused 100% by my removal from the list.

2kool4school was a troll.

I, however, have been robbed of my stake for a strange, stupid reason, so why should I think about how NEM could succeed if I'm now not part of it?

What's that got to do with anything?


It was on my post, just as an Imgur link.

But I assume you mean 'visibly' on the post. In which case, no, you categorically weren't clear.


I have been reading this thread since it's inception, nothing here. Why would I continue to read through the stakeholder thread after I've submitted something there and after I've seen a 'y' next to my name on the Google Docs spreadsheet?


That would have been handy to know from the start. Besides, there is nothing harmful about an Imgur link, so what's the problem with following an outbound link?


Again, you just did not say this when I posted.


I don't care if someone verifies this. Why should I? What matters is that you didn't respond to my submission. It comes down to you not making it clear enough, meaning I now cannot be part of NEM because of some asinine technicality.

What attitude? I'm just trying to get my head around why I haven't got a stake for what was perfectly acceptable at the time. As far as I'm aware I haven't been rude or lashed out, I'm just trying to claim my stake back. I actually want to be a part of NEM.

And what do you mean "You should have read better."?! It said "Make a logo to get a stake.", NOT "Make a logo to get a stake, BUT DON'T POST IT AS A LINK TO IMGUR, THAT'LL FORFEIT YOUR STAKE." Honestly I can't believe such a big issue has been made of it.

It's okay for you, loftily declaring "my attitude is bad" when you have your stake. I thought I was a part of NEM, but now it happens I am NOT, for some utterly bizarre reason.

Utopianfuture (And any of the other devs, they seems to be quiet about this issue), the following goes for you too:


Explain how what I offered does not comply with that?

I honestly do not want to taint this thread with arguing, but I really feel like NEM will do well, and I want to be a part of it. I have been expectantly looking forward to it for weeks now, only to find out that I no longer have a stake for a reason that had left me totally baffled.

I would appreciate a response, either here or as a PM. Thanks.

Huh, so it's the quality of my logo that's the problem now? There are a tonne of other shitty logos which got others a stake. Stop distracting from the issue: I made a logo, and didn't get a stake.

This seems interesting. Count me in.

The rule was 'make a logo'! If you were that bothered about how it was delivered then you should have made it absolutely clear! I thought having a large logo would be considered spammy, taking up lots of space needlessly would mean the pages fill up faster, with less people. I now regret being so considerate.

Someone else must agree that this isn't fair? It's not just me being an asshole?

if everyone else who made a logo got a normal stake, why dont i too?

this was my logo;

http://i.imgur.com/WNRvVB9.png

well apparently i don't get a stake purely because i linked the logo i made to imgur instead of posting it directly in the reply

how is that fair? i still made a logo! i was so looking forward to being a part of NEM too.....

i know i'm not the only one this has hapened to so can i please ask if i can have the stake???

i dont want to sound ungrateful but thats totally unfair

i am sure the condition was to just make a logo, not to post it VISIBLY in the thread..... it was right there! like the other guy said, u should have made it much clearer !!

Cheers!

Why is there not a 'y' next to my name on the 4th tab of the Google document (T2 P21-30)?

I made a logo, which should have reserved a stake according to the conditions at that time.

Link here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4899256#msg4899256

Interested

Interested!

Very interesting ideas.

In terms of the logo and currency symbol:

• The currency symbol ideally needs to be based from a lowercase 'n' and not an uppercase n. This is because NXT's currency symbol is almost certainly going to be based on the uppercase 'n' and we don't want confusion arising between NXT and NEM because of it.
• The logo must be clean and simple. What it can't have is a huge amount of text trying to cram in everything that NEM has to offer - leave that for the website. All the logo needs to contain is the currency symbol and some colour; it needs to be recognisable.

HERE IS MY SHOT AT DESIGNING A CURRENCY SYMBOL AND LOGO.

Obviously I am no graphic designer but I think it gets my point across. Simple.

• The silver texture may need some changing/refinement, but it conveys the 'silver to NXT's gold' message.
• The currency symbol is easy to write and instantly recognisable as (a) a currency and (b) a brand
• Something which could be added is the word 'NEM' below or on the coin. This would associate the logo with the name.

I hope this is enough to grab myself a stake. Glad to help!