Hi goatpig,

Thanks for responding. But damn, that's a shame. There's no way to figure out how to swap in the correct library or debug why it's not loading from this error report?

I can look into using a VM - which virtual OS would you recommend to use in that route?

Hi,

Not sure what the situation is. Possibly, chipset related because Apple changed their silicon recently... on an older laptop, with this same newest OS version, Armory runs fine... but on a newer laptop, Armory won't run and yields an error that i think is related to libcrypto, but i am unsure how to fix the newer system to operate... any ideas?  Both systems are with Armory 0.96.5

I've checked and there's been nothing new written to any of the Armory logfiles.

This is an example of the error report that pops up immediately when trying to run Armory, saying that python crashed:


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Translated Report (Full Report Below)
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Process:               Python [21083]
Path:                  /Applications/Armory.app/Contents/MacOS/Armory
Identifier:            org.python.python
Version:               2.7.15 (2.7.15)
Code Type:             X86-64 (Translated)
Parent Process:        launchd [1]
User ID:               504

Date/Time:             2023-09-29 16:11:49.5872 -0400
OS Version:            macOS 13.6 (22G120)
Report Version:        12
Anonymous UUID:        F82D25EC-1572-9B2C-976A-4205853B3E86


Time Awake Since Boot: 620000 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:        0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:        EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL)
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000

Termination Reason:    Namespace SIGNAL, Code 4 Illegal instruction: 4
Terminating Process:   exc handler [21083]

Thread 0 Crashed::  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   _CppBlockUtils.so                       0x113ddbf37 _GLOBAL__sub_I_cryptlib.cpp + 7
1   dyld                                    0x204c623fb invocation function for block in dyld4::Loader::findAndRunAllInitializers(dyld4::RuntimeState&) const::$_0::operator()() const + 175
2   dyld                                    0x204ca09de invocation function for block in dyld3::MachOAnalyzer::forEachInitializer(Diagnostics&, dyld3::MachOAnalyzer::VMAddrConverter const&, void (unsigned int) block_pointer, void const*) const + 132
3   dyld                                    0x204c94f22 invocation function for block in dyld3::MachOFile::forEachSection(void (dyld3::MachOFile::SectionInfo const&, bool, bool&) block_pointer) const + 577
4   dyld                                    0x204c450af dyld3::MachOFile::forEachLoadCommand(Diagnostics&, void (load_command const*, bool&) block_pointer) const + 245
5   dyld                                    0x204c940bf dyld3::MachOFile::forEachSection(void (dyld3::MachOFile::SectionInfo const&, bool, bool&) block_pointer) const + 175
6   dyld                                    0x204c9675e dyld3::MachOFile::forEachInitializerPointerSection(Diagnostics&, void (unsigned int, unsigned int, bool&) block_pointer) const + 116
7   dyld                                    0x204ca06ea dyld3::MachOAnalyzer::forEachInitializer(Diagnostics&, dyld3::MachOAnalyzer::VMAddrConverter const&, void (unsigned int) block_pointer, void const*) const + 390
8   dyld                                    0x204c5f66c dyld4::Loader::findAndRunAllInitializers(dyld4::RuntimeState&) const + 220
9   dyld                                    0x204c5f85a dyld4::Loader::runInitializersBottomUp(dyld4::RuntimeState&, dyld3::Array<dyld4::Loader const*>&) const + 178
10  dyld                                    0x204c6246f dyld4::Loader::runInitializersBottomUpPlusUpwardLinks(dyld4::RuntimeState&) const::$_1::operator()() const + 97
11  dyld                                    0x204c5f8f1 dyld4::Loader::runInitializersBottomUpPlusUpwardLinks(dyld4::RuntimeState&) const + 93
12  dyld                                    0x204c7c3f6 dyld4::APIs::dlopen_from(char const*, int, void*) + 944
13  Python                                  0x10db3e13a _PyImport_GetDynLoadFunc + 314
14  Python                                  0x10db21a39 _PyImport_LoadDynamicModule + 89
15  Python                                  0x10db204ed import_submodule + 285
16  Python                                  0x10db1ff7e load_next + 270
17  Python                                  0x10db1ee7b PyImport_ImportModuleLevel + 731
18  Python                                  0x10daf8deb builtin___import__ + 139
19  Python                                  0x10db00c1b PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 10171
20  Python                                  0x10dafe204 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 2212
21  Python                                  0x10db08d6d fast_function + 109
22  Python                                  0x10db0066c PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 8716
23  Python                                  0x10db08e51 fast_function + 337
24  Python                                  0x10db0066c PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 8716
25  Python                                  0x10dafe204 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 2212
26  Python                                  0x10dafd952 PyEval_EvalCode + 34
27  Python                                  0x10db1d874 PyImport_ExecCodeModuleEx + 212
28  Python                                  0x10db209ed load_source_module + 957
29  Python                                  0x10db204ed import_submodule + 285
30  Python                                  0x10db1ff7e load_next + 270
31  Python                                  0x10db1ee7b PyImport_ImportModuleLevel + 731
32  Python                                  0x10daf8deb builtin___import__ + 139
33  Python                                  0x10da55061 PyObject_Call + 97
34  Python                                  0x10daff374 PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 3860
35  Python                                  0x10dafe204 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 2212
36  Python                                  0x10dafd952 PyEval_EvalCode + 34
37  Python                                  0x10db2be4d PyRun_FileExFlags + 157
38  Python                                  0x10db2b984 PyRun_SimpleFileExFlags + 740
39  Python                                  0x10db4357f Py_Main + 3279
40  dyld                                    0x204c4941f start + 1903

Thread 1:: com.apple.rosetta.exceptionserver
0   runtime                              0x7ff7fff96634 0x7ff7fff92000 + 17972


Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
  rax: 0x000000010d018de0  rbx: 0x000000030d8d2258  rcx: 0x000000030d8d4ad0  rdx: 0x000000030d8d4a40
  rdi: 0x0000000000000002  rsi: 0x000000030d8d4a28  rbp: 0x000000030d8d2240  rsp: 0x000000030d8d2230
   r8: 0x00007ff858c7c930   r9: 0x0000000000000000  r10: 0x0000000000000080  r11: 0x0000000091e387fb
  r12: 0x0000000113fb7e68  r13: 0x0000000113a44600  r14: 0x0000000113ddbf30  r15: 0x000000030d8d2778
  rip: <unavailable>       rfl: 0x0000000000000202
 tmp0: 0x0000000113ddbf37 tmp1: 0x0511f8c5c057f8c5 tmp2: 0x0005c7480022f385


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VM Region Summary:
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Full Report
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Ok so clearly I'm a bit of a dunce.

Please correct me if I'm wrong:

copy pasting the directory structure from an already-working and compiled binary to a dev directory and appending that new location to the sys.path in python appears to yield me with a copy of armory command line that i can now mess around with.

So if I modify and tweak some things on this copy pasted OSX source, will it still work on linux? Intuitively I'd say yes, because it's python... but the whole compiling C++ throws me a bit and i'm not sure if whatever those "missing" files were from the git clone that only exist after compiling or taking from compiled versions... afraid they are machine-specific - am I overthinking things?

Also, are there any "gotchas" with dealing with armory to make sure i dont inadvertently destroy my blockchain? There's some code comments warning about accessing same wallet file, and suggestions to copy paste it and have 2 armories access separate wallet files, but what about the blockchain itself - is that safe to have a normal stock GUI app interact, and still have a dev version running on same machine? or do i need to make sure only 1 armory is ever running?

Sorry for all the questions....

Hello there,


Have been using Armory (the full UI app on OSX) for interacting with an offline air gapped PC acting as cold storage for over a year now. All is well - love the software.


Have a pretty open ended question here, hope it's not too vague:

I'd like to create a Web App that utilizes bitcoin and operates primarily on the blockchain. To that end, I need to construct a proper wallet and payment handling mechanism (among other things that are beyond scope of this thread).... but why reinvent the wheel, when armory itself suggests copy pasting any relevant bits from armoryd.py and modifying it to suit my needs. Saw that from this help resource: https://bitcoinarmory.com/using-armory-python/

However, I'm completely lost and cant seem to figure out the "right" way to go about this. Armory the application is rather complex and is more than just a plug and play python script, or so it would appear... Plenty of modules and Cpp compile events that don't come across when you clone the master git branch. I tried importing armoryd module directly after appending the root directory as a python path... missing a few modules like twisted and psutil, after some pip magic it got a little further when trying to import armoryd, but got stuck when it kept yelling about Cpp issues... so I tried doing a 'make' in the root of the git clone, but it failed not finding a CppBlockUtils.py file - which I found out is because some Cpp stuff needs to be compiled.... could not get this to work for the life of me from the git clone....

I wound up doing a full osx build from source via the /osxbuild/build-app.py script, which takes forever & then appears to just re-create the damn binary (that i already had working for awhile, and could simply inspect package contents for the "missing" cpp py file)


I ultimately just want to get all the correct dependancies and modules loaded up into my dev environment so armoryd can get imported into python code & will "just work" - then I can start messing around to see how I can adapt it for my purposes. It appears most of the help docs and examples are out-dated, and for a not-so-great programmer like myself, it's quite overwhelming. If there's any ELi5 reading material/up-to-date instructions, that would be superb!


Also, it should be worth noting this will eventually be deployed on a webserver so 99% Linux based environ when it is used "for real". But I'm on OSX right now.... so..

what's "The Right Way" to not reinvent the wheel and waste a ton of disk space in the process? I use pyenv for the dev environment so as to not mess up system install. What am I missing?

This is assuming a normally installed Qt & fully downloaded blockchain. For my purposes, I do not believe supernode mode will be necessary (if that makes any difference)


Thanks very much for any help to be afforded me!

I have already reported on this and posted my crash logs for this very issue on the Bug Bounty thread. I'm on OSX 10.8 and I've been experiencing it on testing.14 much more than on the older testing versions.

Thanks etotheipi, but this still doesn't totally satisfy my question.  Let's say a user has an old QT wallet from many months ago with some coins still on it. The user has never given the private key to anyone, & wishes to take those coins from the QT wallet and keep them safer in an armory offline wallet.

Does sweeping or importing do this instantaneously off-chain so there is no transaction fee involved? Or more directly, how exactly do these mechanics work?  Let's also assume the user wishes to migrate entirely to the armory online/offline way of keeping their coins, so that original QT wallet (or blockchain or whatever) is in no danger of ever being used again to either send or receive.

I'm trying to figure out the financial benefit (if any) of import/sweep versus simply sending a normal transaction over the network for the entire balance to armory wallet.

Also, I've read countless times that address re-use is strongly discouraged. IE: you want to use an address once to receive, and once to send, and that's final. All transaction change goes to a newly created address. Is there any SECURITY reason for this? Or is it simply a privacy thing? For instance, I believe just-dice has an offline wallet that gets constantly reused. According to blockchain tags, it's this:

https://blockchain.info/address/14o7zMMUJkG6De24r3JkJ6USgChq7iWF86

Is that a "Very Bad Thing"? What are the security ramifications to operating this way? Assume they're set up to use armory.

I was under the impression sweeping would move the coins off-chain without incurring any possible transaction fee, and would do this instantly without need for confirmations. The more I think about it, the dumber that sounds as the rest of the network would have no idea those coins were "moved" in the first place.

I'm now a bit confused as to why someone would wish to sweep coins at all. It seems you need to have total control over both wallets in either scenario. You're also advising to never "delete" a wallet. If sweeping still means the coins get sent as a transaction to a new address, how is this different than a normal send?

In my question I do not care at all about signing messages or proving ownership at a later date. I'm more interested in keeping funds secure and organized. I also do not care about the astronomically remote chance of a private key collision.

So, the million dollar question: Why sweep at all, ever? Would the best course of action to be keeping all of the older wallets empty after draining them with a single transaction to the armory wallet, which would consolidate everything?

e4xit, or someone else, please correct me if I'm wrong:

Let's say a user currently already has a QT, blockchain.info, or some other wallet, and wishes to move that entire balance from some or all of those addresses into armory offline cold storage. Are you saying the user gives the wallet.dat to online armory and then says "sweep"? All those funds will go to an armory-managed address and the original wallet.dat would then be empty and effectively useless? Am I understanding this correct?

OSX 10.8, testing v14. Crashed again unexpectedly. This time I'm confident I was active on the computer and it was not coming out of a recent sleep mode.

I had actually just created an offline cold wallet on a windows version (the 88 beta, not testing) and had imported it into armory OSX as watch only. OSX had just finished scanning the blockchain for the new watch only wallet addition, and regained sync with the current block height. Then a few moments later promptly crashed.

I tried to include the entire crash log but it looks like it's too big to post. Here's everything minus the Binary Images section:

OSX 10.8, armory testing v14. I'm receiving an error slightly similar to the poster above:


I'm guessing this to be related to coming out of screen saver/sleep mode. My bitcoin-QT manages to pick up the connection after a moment, but sometimes it may cause armory to crash. Usually there is no error in the armory log file. This happens a 1-3 times a day. Every time it happens, armory needs to rescan the blockchain (20-30min) and then it's normal.

Here is the relevant section from the system crash/hang log. It looks like thread #2 is the one that crashed, so that's what I copied:


Hope this helps

I'm running OSX 10.8, every so often I'll get a dialog saying armory is not in sync because bitcoind/QT is off, however the QT app never quits. My laptop sometimes goes into power save mode, which disables the wifi, I think. Not sure if that has anything to do with it, but I tend to notice it more when waking up my mac. It doesn't just pop up at random while I'm active on it.

here's the closest thing to an error around the time when it gives me the out of sync dialog:



usually, armory will fix itself, however this time it's not figuring it out on its own. At the time of posting, QT is telling me the correct block height of 269980... armory is 6 blocks behind and the only way to fix is to quit/relaunch armory. Upon relaunching, armory immediately shows the correct 269980 block height. QT was never stopped in this scenario.

For what it's worth, newbie here, but have been trading on BTC-e for well over 8 months. Their support is HORRIBLE! If you get a response within 10 days, it's in broken English, and you should consider yourself lucky. But, as far as trading goes, they seem legit. Especially with their new MT4 platform. If you know what you're doing and don't need support, theres a ton of opportunity available.