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is this a dutch auction?

I've been recently started a topic about Platforms that allow Selling Digital Goods for Bitcoin and I'm surprised to see how many users here are using "auto-buy" platforms to scam people. Especially using rocketr... now it has a 1k annual limit and enforced KYC and automated VPN ban. Have spam using this platform reduced now? or there are others platforrms scammers are using?

Or is the issue related to auto-buy platforms exclusively?

This is actually a good suggestion! Added to the list, thank you 🙏

Not sure where your pessimism about lightning comes from, have you ever verified what are you saying? You could also realize doing some math that if the mempool is currently empty, it is probably because of lightning. Ever asked yourself why exchanges are integrating lightning?

Thank you for mentioning Mobezha, it's new to me! 've given it a try, and unfortunately it seems supporting mostly connection to third parties wallets. I'd prefer have something that enable P2P.

I'll add it to the list for now, as yours is the first serious contribution received. Thank you 🙏

You'll be surprised f the contrary. I'm thinking of starting updating the main post with mine and the community findings that will be listed in this thread. Ideally, with the aim to keep it maintained so people will know which tools are currently available to sell digital items and get paid in sats!

Thank you Charles-Tim. I thought about posting there, but it felt more appropriate in this "Service Discussion", because I'm not selling anythig, more looking to evaluate web software and apps the current market has to offer, with the specific features I mentioned above.

Can you suggest some?

Looking to have options for platforms that allow sales of digital goods in exchange for bitcoin.

The requirements that I'm looking for are:

1. Allow payments in BTC onchian (bonus merits if enable lightning)
2. Allow media upload and storage for unlimited time
3.  Allow payments P2P or for a small fee
4. can be self-hosted (ideally opensource) or an existing online service (like Gumroad, but with bitcoin paymets)

Avoid sharing if does not comply with all these 4 points

Thank you

Well, id does make a difference having the option! An one thing is to disclose your private info to a centralized db, another is to disclose it to one person or two that you need to deal with to complete the trade. I guess SN is simply exploring options and trying to accommodate everyone's needs.


Thank you for the advice, each sectin has probably something to teach us. We might have then the wrong approach? We are monitoring what users are aiming to trade and adapt consequently. I assume BT marketplace has been evolving the same way? Or have these categories and subtopics been defined by the original mods since the beginning, deciding what users are allowed to trade and what is not?

Yes correct, I think is moore we need to agree on the terminology. What I meant is that SN offers both options:
- full anonymity when posting as @anon (I guess only IP is tracked in this case)  no email no any type of registration required (I assume this is not possible with BTT)
- partial anonymity as SN offers multiple ways to create an account (Lightning-LNURL, Nostr protocol keys signature)
- psydoanonymously when, as here, one register an account using an external registered account, that could be email address or X/twitter and a nym (psydoanonymous) - However, SN from my understanding does not store much user data, everything is cached and encripted in the browser cache (take this with a grain of salt - can't verify myself, just read about that in the meta forum itself)

Thak you for sharing your opinion. It's obvious that your experience can tell much more of what users in SN currently believe (myself included). This change my perspective thought ad I agree where there's honey, there are bees but also teddy bears. How strong will be the bees to protect the honey? It
's really good to know this has, and still, been experienced here in BTT already. We definitely have plenty still to learn.

I probably agree with you on this as well. What I noticed is that power can be used maliciously in SN as the voice of users with more "weight" (acquired over time with strategy learning from the code) can be more beneficial and literally profitable for those same malicious users. There's still a lot to learn on how the system works. Not everyone is able to read between the lines of the open source code!

From our perspective, we are just operating as moderator of the AGORA territory, the marketplace. We aim to learn and operate it ethically and provide as much education for users to avoid being screw by scammers. I feel BTT is a good place to learn about the challenges that have been presented in past 14 years, and having conversations with users like you, that has been around for long time, help us learn faster how to behave here, but also how to bring this knowledge in other platforms.

I, we have tried multiple times before on building a marketplace from zero, what we have struggled with was the community and trust aspect, that obviously needs time to build up. We saw an opportunity to build something in an existing niche community that has, and still, a pure bitcoin spirit that embrace its values and ethos.

Thank you very much, there's no tracking it was just a need to shorten it for other contexts. I'll replace it with the extended link as soon as possible,


I'm comparing it with the marketplace board, we are not really interested in supporting or promoting crypto or currency exchange, there are others that do it pretty well already. We focus more on the P2P aspect and the detail of teaching people how to safely trade in the private.

True, I'm here to learn. Not because I'd like to do it myself, but just want to have enough knowledge to understand if others are doing right too. Ad there's no  better way to learn that... by doing. I bet I'm doing it the wrong way    otherwise I'd not be learning anything! I also know that mistakes in this sector can be really painful, not just for the escrow but for one f the other participants too. So I want to learn how to keep this in balance, whatever it happens I know there's always a solution. The tricky part is to have the experience and knowledge to find it!

I also understand it is not just about passing the bucks from one side to the other. Depending on what one to deal with, there could be a lot of steak cooking on the fire, and it makes totally sense to select what one want to deal with, especially from a moral and ethical perspective.

If you have any suggestion on references, books and relevant links I could learn from would be much appreciated.

Bump!

Never thought about advertising here, it could be an option! I personally don't see it as a competition, more a collaboration, as I assume we are all driven by same values and have the same mission: allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a
financial institution (govt included).

I jump in BTT because I know there are plenty of experienced traders and people around here we could learn from. Especially on how to build trust and how to make a marketplace successful. Community management and moderation best practices are another of those skills we aim to master.

If I need t think abut differentiating pints between SN and BTT, then the majors important ones are;
- No need to create a SN account: Users can posts anonymously (at a cost)
- Pay2Post drastically reduce spam posts and automated bots, even with symbolic amount of 1 sat per comment
- Community moderation offer the benefits to make more visible posts that have been upvoted (with zaps) and less visible posts that have been downvoted (downzap = pay to push visibility down)
- Different moderation approach that tend to lower visibility of spammy/scummy posts instead of censoring and deleting. Content stay, it just less visible or not visible at all if it has low community reputation.

Thank you for stopping by, take a look and provide your feedback. True is that for now the marketplace is hosted as part of the SN platfrm and there's not much we can customize. However, all the posts and functionalities are visible for guests as for registered users. The only difference is that guests pay 10² the fees a registered user does for posting and commenting. Registered users could also receive sats from community zaps if a wallet is attached.

For trading within the AGORA this does not matter much, as the payments for goods and services advertised could be managed out f the platform itself, this is at the discretion of buyers ad sellers. This make me realize that in reality there's not much functionalities to be offered apart to posting and commenting on threads. And that's what's required for trading.

To incentivize and make users more confident, we are also learning (especially from the marketplace here in BT) how an escrow service could be offered from trusted members. We are also letting users know about external platforms services like coibin, useful to orchestrate a trade with fewer risks.

Inn the bitcoin realms, introducing such "smart" contracts simply add confusion in my perspective. I wonder if a kind or standard practice could be defined when payments are settled in bitcoin, P2P, for both small and high values items, shippable or digital. It would be a great advancement in the bitcoin circular economy.

Or maybe there's something I'm unaware of? The whole point of this topic was to ping escrow providers here in BT and to evaluate current tools and strategy they have currently in place.

I also understand that making this practices publicly available, maybe disrupt and make escrow services more vulnerable to attacks. Hope is not the case!

true is that life happen, and we cant really 100% know what happen in the other side. Assuming escrow rugpulled the other parties is the most obvious and easier conclusion we can reach. I bet in reality we cannot be 100% sure.

My question is then, what an escrow service should guarantee? must it be a company or business of any kind to guarantee the service, instead of a single private person?

Really useful links. I'm just starting learning an dcustomizing my trust flags and list, is actually really useful to see the values under each user profile.