The real problem is the same one I posted about two months ago, when the total supply was 11 trillion and the price was .000005. The supply is ridiculous and still growing at astronomical rates. Literally added another 8 trillion coins in less than two months. The reason there's no value in Stronghands is the same reason there's no value in grains of sand - because they're everywhere. When I said that, people posted "I think this coin have good future and value!" and they'll probably say that again. But they're dead wrong.

If a burn actually happens, here's the thing with the price of Stronghands. If you have three coins worth $1 each and you destroy two of them, does that automatically make the third coin now worth $3 or more? If the value of the coins had to do with something besides scarcity, no. So here's the question you need to figure out: what is the actual utility value of Stronghands? If it is a coin that only exists to be mined and traded among sellers and it isn't used for any real-world purpose like buying or selling goods or saving rainforests or whatever, then the value won't be directly proportionate to the number of coins in existence. In simpler terms, using my example with grains of sand, even if all the sand on Earth were suddenly reduced by 2/3, it still wouldn't hold very much value. Because it's sand, and not that special.

They're already a success everywhere except in the online crypto community. It's the only thing they haven't attempted and conquered, and it requires so few resources to become known and popular online that it's not accurate to say they don't have time or need to reserve their focus for other things.



TRACE will eventually be talked about on Youtube by big names whether the OriginTrail team are active participants or not. The question isn't whether or not they're required to be active participants in promoting TRACE online. The fact is there are lots of reasons to do it now - the token just hit exchanges and it would boost the value immensely, making everyone holding TRACE, including the OriginTrail team, very happy. It would increase their exposure, which every growing company wants.

I'm not picking on them for not having done it yet. I'm just hoping they get to it.

My question to the developers and founders is why they haven't created an online presence yet.

The token is clever. The team is brilliant. You guys have been grinding hard since what, 2013? And you're still at it, working hard like you're still hungry.

TRACE is already a real-world success, it's well-known in the food industry, it has won many awards, and you're already in use. A real working token being used! This is head-and-shoulders above many other cryptocurrencies based on that fact alone.

AND the token can be used in other industries. You guys are going to be the name in supply chain across the globe, I have no doubt of it.

But so many people online haven't ever heard of OriginTrail and TRACE yet. Why not? It's not the end of the world but why aren't Doug Polk, Jimmy Song, Decentralized TV, and the other big Youtube names in crypto talking about TRACE or interviewing you? Being known in the real world was more important than being known in the online world at the onset, I don't dispute that. Now that TRACE has hit the market though and people have invested in it, why not increase that online presence and take it to the moon?

I figured I'd do everyone here a major favor. I sold out of REE finally and I reinvested in the best token I've ever seen. I got in a little late - a day after it had debuted and had already gone 2.5x but since I bought in yesterday it has almost doubled again. And the value proposition on it is so amazing that it's still a great buy.

I'll give you a link and I'll give you some information to get you started. I will not reply to answer questions, debate the merits of the token with you, or do more research for you. I'm already invested in this token and I have nothing to prove or defend. This is just a free tip. Take it or leave it, it's up to you.


https://origintrail.io/

TRACE coin, listed as TRAC on coinmarketcap.com. Look at the charts and I'll give you a brief overview and save you some research time.

TRACE has been an ongoing project since 2013, founded by two guys who went to the oldest and largest college in Slovenia together. One has a degree in Social Sciences, the other in Economics. Since 2014, they've been winning awards in the food service industry in various countries and most recently TRACE won the Food Safety Innovation Award from Walmart in 2017 and got awarded partnership with a premium food retailer in China.

These guys are trying to become "THE name" in the food supply chain, they've been grinding hard for years and they're already successful, they're trying to get every food-related certification under the sun, and they know their product is applicable to other industries with supply chains as well. They've just focused on food, I believe to lay the groundwork and establish themselves as the premier supply chain name before they start expanding in that direction.

The token use is ingenious. It is spent by consumers and companies alike in order to verify location/condition/provenance of food shipments in the supply chain. TRACE also rewards holders who provide feedback on transactions and those who are verified to have accurately reported location/condition/provenance. TRACE is coded to scale down against inflation, so as the price of TRACE increases, the cost of TRACE transactions will remain the same.

It's literally the best coin any of us have ever seen and at the same time one of the least-known online. OriginTrail has made their name offline, in the real world, and they are a powerhouse but for some reason they haven't yet aggressively pitched themselves to the online community.

TRACE is *already* a success. They already have a usable, working token, which puts them head-and-shoulders above many other well-known projects that raised millions. They *already* have partnerships with large companies abroad and are going to continue to grow in the food industry, migrate to the U.S., and branch into other industries. It's not a guessing game with TRACE. No "Will they have a working token in two years?" or "Will anyone ever actually use it?". The value proposition on this project is phenomenal.

You're welcome.

Since I still haven't been able to sell all my Reecoin, I'm here. What would make sense would be for someone to hard fork the project, as Lynx did with Kittehcoin. Allow Ree holders to exchange Ree for the new coin which would bring over all the old crowd and ultimately leave Ree dead where it belongs. Put a cap on the amount of Ree that any one person can exchange for the new coin. That would put the screws to the old developer because he wouldn't be able to dump fucktons of his scam coin into the new project. That's the way to do it. However, I'm not holding my breath waiting for anyone to do it.

FYI seasonic, Dynamite is an internet-fighter. The kind that lives online to argue with someone about anything. I see this type on gaming forums quite a bit. He will always reply - because he has nothing else to do and lives for little else - and the longer your posts are, the longer his will get until you're both writing short stories and he'll never admit he's wrong about anything. Here's a link; I highly suggest you use it -  DO NOT POST SESC LINKS

I have to assume that you only read the very first post in that forum and based your statement off incomplete information. The reason you're hanging around this forum with all the sad, scammed Reecoin holders instead of the forum of the "happy, rescued REE community" is because there isn't any rescued REE community. Take a look at that Castle (CSTL) forum. Here's the link again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2377606.0

There's a lot of people talking about a scam in there. Not a single person celebrating about Castle rescuing them with an airdrop. It looks like they premined 5 million coins before posting once and were called out on it quickly. Logic says that they went back after the fact and edited their first post to explain away why they premined those coins. Because if they had been transparent about it from the beginning, there wouldn't have been anything to cry scam about, would there? When someone said "Hey, you premined 5 million coins!", they would have been able to reply "Yeah, duh, we said that!".

I could write more but I'm just not interested. I'm waiting for the last bit of my Reecoin to sell and then I'm out. Anyone who thinks CSTL is a legitimate campaign despite all the complaints and criticisms and lack of any positive evidence, good luck.

Oh okay... so he's either sitting on a lot waiting for the price to go up or buying more cheaply, or both. Well, that's enough for me. I'll be selling mine. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong. Apparently Reecoin just had the look of a good project but if it was a scam since day one and this dipshit is waiting in the wings to ruin it again, it's not surprising that no one wants to touch it.


Funny enough, I saw one just like it last night.... and it had Reecoin's name attached to it too! Surprise, surprise....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2377606.0

reedev was a scam artist. The only real Reecoin developer to post in this forum was named "Reecoin". He had the very first post and then never posted again after that. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1494444.msg15038645#msg15038645

The links at the end of the FAQ on the official Reecoin.com site were changed to point back to reecoin.com or dead pages. The copyright dates at the bottom of pages haven't been updated since 2016. Reecoin.com was registered anonymously and there are no links on the website to send a message to the owner. So the only possible way to contact him or her would be through this forum.

And about contacting "Reecoin" through this forum... I just went and looked up their profile here for the very first time. Never thought about it before. Here's a link - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=850709

I was shocked to see this: Last Active: Today at 01:02:40 AM

Whoever the creator of Reecoin is, they're logging in. Why they aren't doing or saying anything is anybody's guess. I have no idea.

I read through the first few pages of posts and saw people accusing this original dev of being a scammer as well and holding a huge supply of Reecoin for himself but if that was true, he missed his own boat. The circulating supply didn't change until long after Reecoin had already peaked and plummeted.

Reecoin's price changes now only because of people buying and selling, not because of any development of the coin. There isn't much movement though. The only way it could go up much higher than 0.000300 USD is if someone was honestly working on reviving Reecoin and people had reason to believe it was a good buy. The only reason it would go down much lower is if Livecoin decided to delist it. Until one of those two things happens, you aren't going to either lose or gain much money on it.

Reecoin is open source, which means that everyone has access to its code and can continue development of it. It's here: https://github.com/Reecoin/Reecoin-Project

If I were a programmer, I would absolutely take up the project. I've only dabbled in some C# for small projects though and this is way over my head. I wouldn't be surprised if a professional eventually adopted Reecoin if for no other reason than bringing it back again could mean an easy 100x or more on an investment. There's no one working on it at the moment though.

Not that it matters but I wouldn't be surprised if jaybejay is reedev. As far as I can tell, the true original Reecoin developer made exactly one post here and then was never heard from again. Then reedev came along as the very first scammer to pretend he was taking over the project. Look at this old post where someone was talking about reedev and the other posters pretending to be devs:


What he said back then about reedev and Nguyendong sounds just like jaybejay.

"he sounds like a middle eastern person who tries to sell you something over the phone, lots of grammatical errors."  - check

"his typing/spelling is the same as reedev when reedev messes up,"   - check

"no answers to any legitimate questions being asked."  - check

Coincidence? In the exact same coin within a few months? I doubt it. But since he's still holding Reecoin I suppose he'll be back. Look for another brand new poster in a few months claiming to be in charge of the project who writes like a seven year old. If you can't handle English better than that, jaybejay, you can't possibly be working on websites or code. Humans may forgive you for sounding like an idiot but C++ and HTML will not.

I'm glad people are starting to understand that this jaybejay character has no credibility. I see people asking him for proof where there is none. There's nothing wrong with wanting this project to get off the ground. I do too. What is bad is being willingly blind to the fact that jaybejay is a fourth-rate charlatan. I'd like to elaborate on how to tell because, like seasonic, I think Reecoin is a great project that is destined to be picked up by a professional dev team eventually and it will be much better off if no thieves touch it before that happens.

So, to start with, let's look at a side-by-side comparison of jaybejay's posts/tweets and the posts/tweets from a truly professional team working on reviving a coin. For this example, I'll use Lynx, formerly known as Kittehcoin.

Links:

https://twitter.com/GetlynxIo
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1340334.0


Lynx team:
 
@GetlynxIo
 29 Dec 2017
We’re resetting the mining difficulty adjustment & currently working w/miners & pools. We’re delaying the release of Lynx on Cryptopia (& the wallets) until the difficulty adjustment is complete. Thank you for your patience.

jaybejay:

@ree_coin
 Jan 9

We’re’ doing the best we can.


Lynx team:

@GetlynxIo
 29 Dec 2017

We solved the difficulty adjustment. The Lynx network is running and live. Once Cryptopia is synced, it will be available on the exchange (LYNX). Once its on the exchange, we’ll release the wallets. See: https://getlynx.io/downloads/

jaybejay:

@ree_coin
 Jan 10

We’re working to make sure #ReeCoin is fully back. Everything is looking great at this stage and more development news is coming #$REE

Lynx team:

Re: [ANN][MEOW] KittehCoin - UPDATED 2017
December 25, 2017, 05:38:55 AM

Just go to your wallet.dat file and save it. As long as you have the wallet.dat it doesn't matter if you synched. You sent the coins to 'address a' and your wallet.dat has the key for that address.  

If you deleted your old wallet.dat then look in your recycle bin and try to restore it. Never send coins to a wallet until you have backed it up. If you don't have a thumb drive then you can have the wallet dump the private key and you can write it on a paper.

jaybejay:

Re: Announcing ReeCoin: People’s Coin
January 09, 2018, 11:07:25 AM

We already have dev and we’re working to get everything right. From now, we’re working as a team, no one person alone will look after ReeCoin.

jaybejay again, after I called him out for being a liar:

Re: Announcing ReeCoin: People’s Coin
January 11, 2018, 09:42:50 PM
YOU MUST HAVE CONNECTION WITH THE PREVIOUS DEV, DAMN!

JUST GO AWAY, WE’RE DOING THE JOB. WE DON’T NEED YOU. DO YOU UNDERSTAND OR NOT? CAN YOU JUST GO AWAY AND LET US DO WHAT WE’RE DOING RIGHT NOW? WHERE WERE YOU BEFORE WE START THIS WORK? WHY DIDN’T YOU TAKE OVER THE PROJECT? YOU’RE A SCAMMER, VERY BAD PERSON, ACTUALLY HORRIBLE PERSON. AGAIN, WE DON’T NEED YOUR HELP, JUST GO AWAY!

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Most people should be able to see clearly that the Lynx posts and jaybejay's posts look nothing alike at all. That's because one of them is a real, honest to God, professional team and one of them is a bad liar. I mean bad. If I was interested in scamming the Reecoin community, I'd have copied the style of the professionals and made it sound good. Ripped off some key technical phrases from Justin Sun, the Lynx team, and others to make it sound like I knew what I was doing 100%. But jaybejay isn't smart enough for that. He's an idiot with a see-through lie trying to catch naive and very hopeful investors and take them for a ride.

When he first started posting, jaybejay was asking who the dev was and saying "we need a dev". https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1494444.480
That much at least is true. We DO need a dev. But twenty-four hours after he wrote that we need a dev, he was posting that he was running the "official" Reecoin twitter and he was partnered with the new developer. That would be some magical Albus Dumbledore-level shit if it were true. Unfortunately, it's not. He didn't pull a developer out of his back pocket in a day and take control of everything.

I also want to point out how a professional responds to criticism. Not by calling names, accusing their accusers of scamming, and shouting in all caps like a third grader as jaybejay does. Look here at what Justin Sun, the founder of Tron, said after Charlie Lee, the founder of Litecoin, publicly attacked him:

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/949578759450931200

He responded with facts. Because he's not a scammer. See, if someone says that you're a liar and you really aren't, all you have to do is tell the truth to disprove them. If jaybejay weren't a liar, and if he were a professional, all he would have to do to disprove everything seasonic or I have said is give you information. Tell you who the developers are so that you could view their credentials with a Google search or on LinkedIn. Provide links to a working Reecoin website and not just social media sites. Post anything that sounded like actual development, code, plan, background, whatever. But he can't because he's got nothing like that.

Last thing - This tweet: https://twitter.com/ree_coin/status/950900026699476993  is a doctored picture. Apparently he or one of his friends knows how to use MSPaint at least. Reecoin's highest price valuation on January 9th was .000292. You can check it easily on Coinmarketcap.com. Also, for Reecoin to have the market cap shown in that picture, it would have to be trading at a value of roughly 0.10 USD. Check it yourself on Coinmarketcap.com. Look at what it was trading for on July 08, 2017 and look at the market cap. I hope that no one wants to trust a guy who posts altered pictures of coin prices on his bullshit "official" Twitter.

Hang in there, folks. Just because jaybejay is garbage that doesn't mean that Reecoin is dead beyond hope. I'm invested in it and I know it's a great project so I'm going to continue to message real developers in the hope of finding someone willing to pick up where it was left off. It will happen eventually.

If it makes you feel any better, I don't need to keep dogging you out to make you look bad. You make yourself look horrible without any help.

To everyone besides this clown, I've PMed Sunerok twice about reviving Reecoin. He replied to my first message to say that his work on Reecoin was paid for and he didn't do it out of any personal interest in the project, but I wrote him again. Waiting and keeping my fingers crossed.

Go pick a different coin to pump, and get someone else who understands English to write for you. You might not be bright enough to realize how dumb your posts sound but the rest of us are laughing at you. You literally write and spell like you have a Pre-K education.

Ree = good. You, however = trash. I'll keep reaching out to real programmers in the hope that someone will pick up the project.

Quoted from Investopedia: "Because fiat money is not linked to physical reserves, it risks becoming worthless due to hyperinflation. If people lose faith in a nation's paper currency, like the U.S. dollar bill, the money will no longer hold any value."

This is one of the problems cryptocurrency as a whole aimed to solve. Even people with no background in economics are starting to understand that U.S. currency is printed off with absolutely nothing backing it and it only has value because people pretend it does. Whether you personally care about it or not, it's a real global problem. There are actually more Stronghands in existence now than there are U.S. dollars.

I hate to FUD my own coin but you're right - this jaybejay guy is clearly full of shit. It would be one thing to try and generate interest and hope but it's something quite different to lie about working on the project as a developer and post fake screenshots.

I posted a day ago that Reecoin is a great looking project. Then I went looking into the code myself and found out that Justin Vendetta aka Sunerok, the lead developer of Verge (XVG) actually did some work for Ree - https://github.com/Reecoin/Reecoin-Project/graphs/contributors. Now I'm even more convinced that I was right. A top notch guy like that wouldn't be involved in anything but a quality product.

Sunerok posts on the Verge Bitcoin talk forum under the screenname dogedarkdev - I messaged him last night and asked him why he hasn't picked up Reecoin as a project now that it's orphaned. I mean, even strictly from a position of self-interest, if he bought himself some Reecoin and then publicly announced that he was working on it, he'd instantly 100x his money. Seems like a no-brainer to me. We'll have to wait and see though.

It is now. As I pointed out in a previous post, two weeks ago Coinmarketcap said the total supply was 12 billion. Now it's 11 trillion. I asked about it but since no one has offered an explanation as to how or why that happened, for all we know next week there might be 100 trillion Stronghands.

Of all the coins that are 4 or more decimal places to the right, Reecoin has the most professional looking webpage, value statement, and vision. I'm invested in other good coins - Sia, ICX, NEO, IOTA - and REE looks 100% like a good project with a real future. It really shouldn't be a pump-and-dump coin. I have no idea why someone went as far with it as they did and then quit, unless they died or fell deathly ill. I do understand that most people who visit these forums, like me, aren't coders but I don't understand why someone with technical know-how hasn't picked up this project.

The difference between coins that succeed and coins that don't is this:

In the forums of coins that succeed, people post "Here is our discord channel! Here is our telegram!" and just make it happen. In the forums of coins that don't succeed, people post that someone ought to make it happen.