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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 05/03/2014, 13:22:07 UTC
There were minutes of downtime in the EU server. I also wanted to point out that the statistics server loadings have become significantly slower in the last hour.
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 04/03/2014, 20:08:34 UTC
A big Thank you to Terk .Really nice work on the EU server. Rejects nearly at 0%. I like people who are dedicated to what they are doing, and Terk is one of them. So people, stop whining about a bad day and see the whole picture...

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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 04/03/2014, 10:12:12 UTC
Profitability is going down a lot. Competition just nailed it. Is there any work in progress to improve it?

It's a bad day, relax and wait for tomorrow.
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 04/03/2014, 10:09:34 UTC
when i enter my btc adress (1D6jkxc1cJ8XYXxWrnswmz4V8mE7JkPDTp‏)to check my rates it says:
404
Oops! You're lost.

The page you are looking for does not exist.
Return to home page



Wait a full hour.
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 03/03/2014, 11:12:20 UTC
I have multiple rigs, can i use same user (btc address) and password for all the rigs or must have a differente wallet to different rig ?
Yes, same addresss.
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 01/03/2014, 14:21:33 UTC
Did i got i right?

expiry, queue, scantime we need to delete from config file/not need them at all?

Delete expiry and scantime and set --queue 1 just to be sure. This settings are provided by Kalroth!
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 01/03/2014, 09:42:47 UTC
My settings for R9 290X

 --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://us.clevermining.com:3333 -u blablabla -p anything -w 256 -v 1 -I 18 -g 1 --thread-concurrency 32765 --log 5 --gpu-fan 80 --gpu-powertune 20 --gpu-memclock 1500 --gpu-engine 1000 --lookup-gap 2 --api-port 4028 --temp-target 80 --temp-overheat 95 --temp-cutoff 97 --queue 1

I reach 900khs: http://d.pr/i/zSOn

Try it because 290 is quite similar to 290X.

Maybe set --gpu-engine 920 and --gpu-memclock 1400.
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 28/02/2014, 16:37:39 UTC
You're Kalroth???   Shocked Shocked Shocked Boy thanks for the advice!  Cheesy
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 26/02/2014, 11:28:54 UTC
Someone else gets huge percentage of rejected this morning?
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 25/02/2014, 08:14:12 UTC
For all having issues with rejects -

-- Keep intensity below 19, try 18 (on -g 1 configs).

-- Insert -E 10 -s 5 -Q 0 settings into your config(s).

I have always ran my r9 290 miners at -I 20 and seen little issues on other profit switching pools. However I'm getting >10% rejects on clevermining.

Can you explain why -I 18 is supposedly better in this case even though it appears to result in less WU and hashrate?

I have a R9 290X I did an experiment with many levels of intensity. Have a look here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B-_UkIrGZYray8jb4K3Jnwx3JgweBHdaTCxgccgtFio/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 19/02/2014, 18:47:56 UTC
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[18:06:05] New block detected on network before pool notification

Shouldn't the pool notify about block change? maybe that would reduce the rejected ratio a lot more.
Plus, my sgminer is using my failback pool A LOT, really A LOT. Maybe an EU server? (please??)

Yeah, we need EUropean server!


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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 19/02/2014, 16:46:41 UTC
1. My rejection Rate is very High bRejected: 83.9 kH/s (13.8%)

2. I am running Sapphire R9 280X. The cgminer show avg 728 KH/s where as on the website 631.7 kH/s 24-hour Average.

3. As per the website  the  BTC per day is 0.01218 BTC/day per MH/s.Based on this calculation the BTC/day for 700 KH/s must be .008526. However i have only 0.00565835 BTC. i e 34% less than pool profitability.

Please advise

Raw hashrate is 728 kh/s. Rejects are 13.8%. 728 kh/s * (1 - 0.138) = 628 kh/s effective. Pretty much exactly what you're seeing.
And I got the same BTC/MH yesterday. Seemed to be a lower-than-average profitability day.

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To everyone struggling with very high rejects: You can tweak cgminer to use a lower intensity while still maintaining a high hashrate via the -g 2 parameter. But that will only help if your rejects are actually higher than the pool average. If it's already equal or lower than average, then you don't really need to worry about it because the reject rate is already factored in the profitability calculation, according to Terk.

Forgive me but where is the pool average for rejects? I am at 24% rejects which can't be right! When you use the g2 parameter are there any general rules of thumb? For instance do you usually start with half the -I and -g2?
Thanks in advance.




Average rejects are displayed alongside your own rejects in the graph on your user stats page. Right now it's about 25%, so yours isn't even particularly bad.
All you need to know about -g 2 and intensity tweaking is written here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1461916/tutorial-ultimate-guide-to-tweaking-amd-cgminer-3-7-2-kalroth-edition-sgminer-instructions-included-aswell-get-the-most-hash-out-of-your-gpu

So are you trying to say that the same settings we all use and have used for months/years on profit/coin switching pools don't apply to yours because you all are doing something beyond what the most venerable pools are doing in this space? I'm just trying to understand why the admins of the pool are doing this finger pointing the miners' way. I've never seen reject rates above 10% ever... but here it's like I'm giving away 25% of my hash power and not getting the results I expect from a 90% or better share efficiency.

I want to drink the koolaid guys, don't get me wrong. There's a LOT to like here; that said, pointing the finger at the miners and saying they are doing something wrong to experience this problem only with your pool sounds unreasonable.

That said, I will adjust my mining configs tonight a bit and see if it has any appreciate effect, but I would like to know, in a detailed technical explanation from the pool admin(s) why this is our issue and not a pool-side issue.

Thanks a bunch for the work...

r00tdude

I'm doing a log with the measurements of my gpu to find the best configuration for now lower the intensity as suggested several times by Terk really seems to work, please look here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B-_UkIrGZYray8jb4K3Jnwx3JgweBHdaTCxgccgtFio/edit?usp=sharing
+1 for your question.
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 19/02/2014, 16:26:56 UTC
hi trek


i been with the pool for nearly 6 days and never disconnected or went to my back up pool .....but today your pool has gone down ?is that to do with too many new users, putting a strain on your server ?

have you got a back up server address/pool ?

hope you can get this sorted......

We're getting bigger, faster, stronger. In the next couple of hours there will be another server up. Stay tuned and keep on mining.
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 19/02/2014, 15:24:54 UTC
Hi terk

since 14h30 GMT +1 i have enormous fail on the pool Sad

Is it normal, cgminer lost connection to stratum server every 10mins

Please read the thread before post! There's an issue on the server, Terk is working hard to set another one!
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 19/02/2014, 13:48:49 UTC
@Terk what's happening? http://d.pr/i/Pfbh
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 19/02/2014, 13:01:20 UTC
1. My rejection Rate is very High bRejected: 83.9 kH/s (13.8%)

2. I am running Sapphire R9 280X. The cgminer show avg 728 KH/s where as on the website 631.7 kH/s 24-hour Average.

3. As per the website  the  BTC per day is 0.01218 BTC/day per MH/s.Based on this calculation the BTC/day for 700 KH/s must be .008526. However i have only 0.00565835 BTC. i e 34% less than pool profitability.

Please advise

Raw hashrate is 728 kh/s. Rejects are 13.8%. 728 kh/s * (1 - 0.138) = 628 kh/s effective. Pretty much exactly what you're seeing.
And I got the same BTC/MH yesterday. Seemed to be a lower-than-average profitability day.

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To everyone struggling with very high rejects: You can tweak cgminer to use a lower intensity while still maintaining a high hashrate via the -g 2 parameter. But that will only help if your rejects are actually higher than the pool average. If it's already equal or lower than average, then you don't really need to worry about it because the reject rate is already factored in the profitability calculation, according to Terk.

What is the meaning of the parameter -g?

Number of parallel GPU threads. http://www.lurkmore.com/wiki/Cgminer_3.1.1_README.txt

(Edit) Better explanation: http://www.overclock.net/t/1461916/tutorial-ultimate-guide-to-tweaking-amd-cgminer-3-7-2-kalroth-edition-sgminer-instructions-included-aswell-get-the-most-hash-out-of-your-gpu

Why do you think might be related to the fact of lower intensity? I always thought that this parameter was "optional". Thanks
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 19/02/2014, 12:45:21 UTC
My Cgminer Settings cgminer.exe --auto-fan --temp-target 82 --temp-overheat 85 -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --thread- concurrency 8192 --gpu-engine 1050 --gpu-memclock 1500 --gpu-powertune 20 --temp-cutoff 90 --gpu-fan 80-100

At I 13 there are not HW errors

And also i am getting the following status
Pool 0 stratum+tcp://us.clevermining.com:3333 not responding!

i've had a few disconnects from the pool today too. i've had Cgminer up in an SSH terminal due to monitoring the Rejects and adjusting my intensity, i've seen it disconnect at least 4 times in the last hour.

im in the UK so perhaps this is a factor. please add me to the list of Euro users waiting for a local node.



I am not having disconnection problems and live in Italy, close enough to you!
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 19/02/2014, 12:20:43 UTC
Hey guys,

I just started to use your pool since several hours. Like many other peoples I am not happy with the high rejection rate. Is there a way to see my 24h rejected avarage? I did only find the rejected rate for the last hour. This would be helpful to optimize my miner configuration.

Thanks

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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 19/02/2014, 10:54:54 UTC
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I am running it for last 2 days. Why is my profitability 34% less than the pool and is there any settings to be done in CGminer

Yes you can decrease Intensity in order to reduce rejected. I'm doing an experiment to see if this can help as it has been reported by Terk (admin) but I was not yet clear whether it actually works. Here you can find one sheet where I did a comparison (still in progress) between I = 20 and I = 17. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B-_UkIrGZYray8jb4K3Jnwx3JgweBHdaTCxgccgtFio/edit?usp=sharing

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so they are shares that i actually lost? or they may be eventually accepted and i will see that number lowering?

From what I understand they should not affect your hashrate and are not counted among the rejected, the correct figure is in line GPU0.
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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Alpharoid
on 19/02/2014, 10:29:15 UTC
1. My rejection Rate is very High bRejected: 83.9 kH/s (13.8%)

2. I am running Sapphire R9 280X. The cgminer show avg 728 KH/s where as on the website 631.7 kH/s 24-hour Average.

3. As per the website  the  BTC per day is 0.01218 BTC/day per MH/s.Based on this calculation the BTC/day for 700 KH/s must be .008526. However i have only 0.00565835 BTC. i e 34% less than pool profitability.

Please advise

How long are you using the pool? Expect at least a day before drawing conclusions. it is true that the percentage of rejected is still high but the values ​​of profitability is not wrong!