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Re: [ICO] Do you know body flying? Now imagine an ICO for it
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BFree_ICO
on 04/10/2017, 13:12:18 UTC
Very nice project. Fly in the airtube, feel yourself in weightlessness, I think that this is the dream of many. I think that the payback of this project will be very high.

Yes thats true. The profits of the windtunnels are huge. They can operate 24/7, that brings us different target groups of customers. That is even not mandatory to be sold out 100%, already at a load of 75% a windtunnel runs more than great.

Thanks to the additional services we will offer like accomodations, conferences, eventorganizaton, advertising LED Billboard rent, a store and drinks and food, the profits will significantly increase.
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Re: [ICO] Do you know body flying? Now imagine an ICO for it
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BFree_ICO
on 04/10/2017, 12:57:52 UTC
Thanks, now I see... That's a good thing to do Smiley. Where will the facility be located geographically? Huh

It will located 3 min away from Frankfurt International Airport in Germany.

We've schoosen the location because of the great connection in the region as well as globally in Europe. An international facility like a wind tunnel benefits a lot from the Airport, the huge european train hub and the most frequented highways in Germany directly for the door of the windtunnel. 
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Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
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BFree_ICO
on 04/10/2017, 04:12:12 UTC

Bounty manager is mandatory of you plan to run Bounty campaign. In past few month I've been in few campaigns with manager and in few without. Those without are always a total mess in the end when it's time to count stake and distribute the bounties.


The problem I have right now is that magical first purchaser. I just realized, it turns a little against the project, if you don't have any tokens sold after a few days. But on the other hand it is absolutely logical cause you need time to make the project known.

Sure it is a simple psychology, if nothing is sold people believe it should be something wrong with the project. I assume during the bounty some projects buy their own tokens from different wallets to make it seem like a crowd coming and purchasing, that causes by "real" purchaser the impression the coin is popular and they start to buy.

Well, sure it is an effective way, even if pretty manipulating, but how can you claim after this, your project is such an honest one?

Marketing has not to be fair or honest. But actually it is hard to accept, after you came a long way to the current stage and actaully did it in a absolute honest and fair way.

This dilemma to stay fair or to get succefull a little easier and a little faster you are facing as a project manager almost every day. Well I claim we still moove on the right side !

So everybody who wants to entrust his money to a team who rather likes to convince you than to manipulate, is very welcome to participate in our ICO and to achieve something great together
www.bfreecoin.io
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Re: An ICO for body flying. Does it sound inteeresting to you?
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 21:54:48 UTC
From my point of view I think it is not very attractive and the web site looks like an scam one.
I would work a little more in the front office section.
This kind of cheap look makes your project have a mischievous looking, i am not saying its a scam.

good luck

Well, hard to hear but still many thanks for your feedback, that helps us to get different points of view and to get better!

And thanks for your wishes
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Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 21:40:57 UTC
You can do everything yourself if you have a team! Yet, no marketing skills or no marketing budget = no crowd and no crowed = no ico success. Hiring helpers here is not a bad thing.. don´t see it as full outsourcing...see it as your support!

Good luck with your ico!

Here are some tips for starting an ico (made by community members) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2131560.120

Thank you for your advices, especially the link to the marketing topic is very useful!

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Re: An ICO for body flying. Does it sound inteeresting to you?
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 20:47:55 UTC
You said you guys own Fly Vision right? The one under construction in Frankfurt? If it is the same place, then this company is legitimate as they are actually already recognized by International Bodyflight Association. IBA is one of the first of its kind to provide training, directory services and also holds events that pertains to body flying.

Yes, I am the owner of Fly Vison. The information about being under construction is'nt exactly right. We did already soil testings. The IBA schould have interpreted that as the actual construction. In fact it was the preparation work for the construction to checlk the bearing capacity of the soil and the level of the groundwater. Further we wanna prepare everything now so we can start construction as soon as the funds are raised.   
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Re: An ICO for body flying. Does it sound inteeresting to you?
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 20:40:39 UTC
I remember that kind of thing years ago. I'm not sure I'm wrong about what I see, but it was something like that.I think it is a system that is currently in progress. If the project collects money from there, how much do you need it for this project. I saw only 1 token sold on ico page. I hope there is no trouble. why there is not much participation.

Not, they are'nt any trouble Smiley

We did'nt hire any bounty managers, and are doing the whole advertising by ourselves, that needs time and is a pretty hard work. Well every beginning is not easy. I mean as long as there is just 1 token sold everybody thinks, there should be something wrong. But as long as everybody think so, no one is buying the tokens. A vicious circle... If you have any advices how we can break through it, tell it! We honestly would be thankful for any of them.  

When you check our whitepaper you will see that everything is definitely right and absolutly honest (!) about this project. We are working already for almost 4 years on that. We brought it to a good level, got the building permit for our facility and were already preesented in a lot of media in Germany.

As the CEO of this project, who knows absolutely every detail about it, I am ready to help anybody to understand what the project is about and offering to call me at my office number: +49 69 348753688.

I'll be glad to speak with you Smiley
Kind regards
Alexandra Komogorov

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Re: Bounty Manager?
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 19:30:54 UTC
I think post count is not possible through bots for facebook and twitter it is possible to count with Bots. For post counts, we always need the manager because they will check whether the participants are spamming the Forum and if not means he will be awarded as stakes. So it always good to recruit the manager.

I am sorry, but I still don't get it.

Counting the posts just gives you a measuring unit, which allows you to check the range. But how exactly the bounty manager bring people to participate? At the end they also just can advertise your project answer questions about it and try to convince the people to participate. Does it mean they are just reach the participants because of lots and lots of postings? According to the motto, when 100,000 people read the posts, 1000 would participate?

Do I overlook something? Are there more ways to win the partcipants than just to create hundred thousends of postings in any known social network?   

Let's crypto the daily life with BFree Token
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Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 19:12:50 UTC
-Yes it is. But you should do it on your own instead of outsourcing it,

We've though the same: better doing it by ourselves than outsourcing. We have a very great project on start and definitely convinced that no one could be able to explain it to the people better than us, the founders, who are burning for it, wo hav'nt done anything else for the past 4 years than just made everything to help the project to grow.

But now we are a little surprised. Ir seems like it is not enough to have a good project to offer. You needs crowds, and crowds. and crowds!

Well we stay optimistic, believe in our project and would be happy to show to the future Start-ups organizing an own ICO: it is possible to do an ICO by yourselves. 

Maybe the most amazing thing you can experience: www.bfreecoin.io

 
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Re: [ICO] Do you know body flying? Now imagine an ICO for it
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 17:54:15 UTC
I don't really get the idea

The vision behind our project is primarily to push the crypto currencies into the real life. Crypto Curencies are a great thing, but you still can not just go out of the house and buy your cup of coffee with a few satoshis. You even can not buy an e-book with CC or something else you are using daily. It is time to change that.

Crypto Currency has to stop being just a privillege of the IT Community and go out in the world.

For this purpose we want to build a facility with several services in business, marketing, shopping, drink % food and especially entertainment being offered for payments in Crypto.

We will finance the facility through an ICO (pre ICO already started www.bfreecoin.io) and when it is ready we go to use the services we are effering to integrate the Crypto currency into the daily life of our customers. We won't just offer our services for cryptopayments we will also organize coachings and courses to teach "normal" people what the crypto currencies are.

A worldwide biggest wind tunnel for body flying which we want to build attracts already now a lot fo attention. It will be a great international platform to introduce and establish crypto currency in the "conservative real life".
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Re: [ICO] Do you know body flying? Now imagine an ICO for it
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 17:24:12 UTC
No, it's not. You can't even spell check it.

Thanks for your correction.

In Fact we are not native english speakers. Does it mean we don't know our market of activity more than very well? Does it mean we did'nt do a great job in the past 4 years? Or does our english spelling allow any conclusions about the quality of our project? Yes, it does. It shows that we can quickly learn a language und make it not perfect but understandable for others, if we need it. It is a good performance. Which we by the way would also appreciate from every foreigner who managed to learn german just cause its useful. 
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Re: [ICO] Do you know body flying? Now imagine an ICO for it
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 05:41:33 UTC
you say you spend a ton of cash already? then why are you looking for peanuts on this forum?

Which forum would you reccommend to look in?
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Re: Bounty Manager?
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 05:22:01 UTC
Interesting topic. I tried to start a similar one with some questions about bounties. Why are they necessary, what they are doing what the team can not do by themselves.

Well, I've got just one answer with recommandations for bounties, but nothing else. Seems like the people don't have a partcular interest in this topic. You know, it's like bounty managers are there so you need them. Not so many people question the real need of bounty.

Here is my small experience in ICO without bounty.

We made our site by ourselves www.bfreecoin.io
Our CTO made the Ethereum based smart contract 
We got 2 days ago online and keep posting in different forums ans social networks
Still there is unfortunetely just 1 ETH on our cintract, although our project is very conservative and already far advanced.

I don't think it is because we don't have a bounty manager. We are just two days online which is not a long time and did'nt advertise before. That es something I would definitely do different next time: making the project known before starting pre ICO.

Will see what happens next days.
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Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 04:43:56 UTC

Just checked your token page. That was a refreshing surprice to see TGE in spite of ICO be written there Smiley
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Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 04:33:34 UTC
]If you want to make with bounty manager you should choice famous bounty manager like sylon or colorlessK


That does'nt answer my quaetion. I REALLY wanted to know, what so special about bounty managers is. Sure everybody knows in general what they do, but is there something what a team can not do by themselves? Provided they have enough time.

Since I have'nt decide yet to bounty or not, I thank you very much for your recommendation. I will definitely check on the bounties you named. 
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Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 04:11:52 UTC
And there is an other topic I don't understand:

No one is reactong to the bounty questions. Why?

I mean everyody is duscussing if ICO's are a safe way to invest. But every ICO team is facing the problem of selecting a bounty manager. And let's be honest, there are so many newbies outside who try to sell you their services and ask for a lot of money for them. But if you try to find a duscussion about theese campaign managers, their work and trustworthiness you just don't find anything!
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To bounty or not to bounty?
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 03:49:52 UTC
Ok, guys: one question does not leave me peace. Actually there are 3 questions

-  is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?
-  What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" community and what is on their communities so different to all numerios forums in internet?
-  And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"?

 
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Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 02:52:40 UTC

You are welcome to try writing that yourself. That is at least 20 pages with information that isn't publicly available. If you want more in-depth, critical articles, you can look at my work on Kyber, Bancor, Icon, and Red Pulse.

Well to critisize is always easier than actually to do the job.

Even if criticism is justified, it can be expressed in different ways. I've read some stuff of you and I like it. Sure, when the things change the articles lose their relevance, but it does'nt mean at all they were not useful and informative at the time they were published.
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Re: [ICO] Do you know body flying? Now imagine an ICO for it
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 02:32:47 UTC
you say you spend a ton of cash already? then why are you looking for peanuts on this forum?

Cause this project needs a lot more than we already spent. You never can start something wirthout any investrment. In this case there were a lot of tasks to take care of, until you know for sure if the project will work.

I definitely would'nt call the money people give us "peanuts". We appriciate any support and trust we get. The sense of crowdfinfing ist to put a lot of smaller amounts together to create a huge power able to build up big projects. 
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Re: [ICO] Do you know body flying? Now imagine an ICO for it
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BFree_ICO
on 03/10/2017, 02:09:45 UTC
I already assume this is Aeron project which offers blockchain solution for avaition safety turns out its not  Cheesy 

I am sorry to disappoint you Cheesy Actually a blockchain solution for aviation safety would be a pretty usefull project.

P.S. Body flying is still very helarious. Check it out, maybe you gonna like it as much as aviation safety Smiley



But what you are offering isn't new though. There are some projects that already exist with such features you mentioned.

What do you mean exactly? The idea to offer our services for crypto currencies or the offering of so many defferent services in a wind tunnel facility?