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Nocks gave gulden value but blockhut is a zombie service that is only in place to feed the premine through and not created to increase value for Gulden or new name Munt. Is MaNI still working with Rijk?
Most people have left the community, another 100 million premine coming soon to a MUNT blockchain near you.
Nocks gave gulden value but blockhut is a zombie service that is only in place to feed the premine through and not created to increase value for Gulden or new name Munt. Is MaNI still working with Rijk?
We get tired of this guys coins going down in bear and bull times. It make us angry that we invested in this useless coins, the community is chased away by him.
Move on, it's better for your health. Invest in other projects you know the people behind are putting effort in. This project the community was expected to invest and make work when we have careers of our own.
Munt must be left to die and team only focus on Florin. No one is buying the Munt premine and the Gulden nft or put the Gulden nft on the florin blockchain.
I have downloaded other wallets like metamask and the industry has passed centure in developing because working on 2 blockchains slows development.
Rijk also has no investment in MUNT besides selling the premine and he said he only has Florin. Blockhut will only be a service for selling the premine and no hope of ever buying off bittrex as no skills like Roel in the team.
I have downloaded other wallets like metamask and the industry has passed centure in developing because working on 2 blockchains slows development.
Rijk also has no investment in MUNT besides selling the premine and he said he only has Florin. Blockhut will only be a service for selling the premine and no hope of ever buying off bittrex as no skills like Roel in the team.
If you notice the price triple in one day it will be followed with an announcement by blockhut that it's expanding its services to buy off the exchanges. imo.
The fact the price is this low tells you no flow of money is making it into the exchanges besides the normal community.
Bitcoin was started in 2008, all crypto bear markets occurred when the normal markets were doing fine. What do you think is coming for stocks, housing, businesses etc in 2023? We will have a crypto bear market with a global recession for the first time. It's not going to be pretty.
The 100 million premine will have to be sold on the exchanges to cover costs for centure as less people will have money to buy into crypto. The community will have to split their investments into 3 different centure projects and pray for the best. The 100 million premine looks to be dropping fast and I am willing to bet another 100 million premine will be needed to cover costs.
Munt is the dumping ground for the other 2 projects. Florin is the better option for ROI in a few years.
Rijk the founder doesn't own any Gulden/Munt, he sold all his coins this year. He does own Florin as he sees this as a better investment.
Is the florin price below the IPO price?
More people like MUNT, florin is ok for holding but MUNT getting gulden nft early next year.
The problem with MUNT and Florin and will be same with the NFT is blockhut only raises funds from dev funds and nft sales. Blockhut can be cleared of funds and 100s of users waiting to buy which would normally drive the value up but it doesn't. Most of the community don't want to buy on exchanges. When Gulden was on litebit and Nocks the price was higher.
This is why Gulden missed out on the last bull market. We only start to understand how important Nocks was for Gulden, maybe one day a new Nocks will come.
Truth but Nocks did rip off some people in the community with the Ncks token. A community member that was admin on telegram got screwed, when Nocks became a exchange it cost too much for them to maintain so it would not work in the long run. Nocks was much better when it was a broker then when it became a full exchange and started adding other coins and its own token.
Gulden needs another Nocks.
It's difficult to start a successful service like Nocks, I tried to get GRS listed on Nocks because of all features it came with that the GRS team could of used effectively in the wallets. MaNi did some good work on the Gulden wallets with Nocks. Is blockhut only selling premine or upgraded to Nocks status?
Blockhut is only for selling the premine and from the devs PoV that is all they need. It will never be another Nocks, forget that dream.
You can buy all the coins you want on blockhut and the value won't move. Florin and Gulden are stuck unless another Nocks adds Gulden.
Was the witness project ever finished?
Witnessing was finished long ago but Witnessing sync was only half done before the devs had to do Florin work.
Finally this shit coin will be dead Oct 3 2022
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How do you kill something twice?
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This time it’s official the coin will no longer exist after this date
How?
By Oct 3 you need to change your gulden for MUNT because gulden will stop
Gulden will be renamed to MUNT.
Breaking news : live from Banana Republic of gulden
A one time payment of 100 millions Nlg will be made to Rijk
How many millions was the premine ? 450 millions
Total 550 millions over the total supply of 700 millions
+ the all the devs rewards.
This is as least 78% in the pocket of the president of the republic
And the joke of the day : the total supply will be reached after 1000 years
Who cares about this shit coin in few months years
A one time payment of 100 millions Nlg will be made to Rijk
How many millions was the premine ? 450 millions
Total 550 millions over the total supply of 700 millions
+ the all the devs rewards.
This is as least 78% in the pocket of the president of the republic
And the joke of the day : the total supply will be reached after 1000 years
Who cares about this shit coin in few months years
Why the change?
First premine was 170 million , 270 million in premine excluding the dev rewards. I don't know what the dev rewards added up too?
What difference will the 100 million make compared to the dev reward? Is the dev reward gone?
Blockhut is a one dimensional service, it's only purpose is to sell the dev reward and premine. Will the entire 100 million be placed on blockhut? This means there will be no reason to buy more coins on the exchanges for new users.
Gulden and florin have the same problem of buyers not affecting the exchange rate because its coming off blockhut that only sells the dev reward, when it runs out users have to wait instead of blockhut buying off bittrex for users which would increase the price.
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<€50 xfl this week. It took a long time but my patience is going to pay off. 40 mining rewards a day, not enough buy support to keep it for another week.
As for Gulden, there needs to be waaay more love and compatibility-minded thinking between the Florin and Gulden projects honestly. Marketed together as a complete store of value/nextgen payment/NFT platform instead of separated/disparate/competing projects would make for a much, much better potential ecosystem for more users and developers to start taking an interest. As a person who only holds an investment in Florin i think this is a very bad idea. Florin should be nothing else than a store of value. It doesnt therefor need Gulden marketed together.
But any new buyer with two brain cells is going to see that xfl is just a clone of gulden with less coins. If they also see that the original project, Gulden, is being treated like the ugly daughter locked away in the dungeon, very few people will take an interest in xfl. Soon they will both be neck and neck on CMC. They need to at least be complimentary, interlocking offerings like NEO/Gas, Theta/Tfuel, etc.
No investor cares about that. They are only interested in financial gain. They couldn’t care less about the ugly daughter
Same genetics=same disinterest, sorry to say. Unless Gulden receives a fresh face lift, some liposuction and a new dress, so to speak, xfl will also be put in the dungeon
You can give an ugly kid a new dress and some plastic surgery, but the inner core still remains ugly.
So the inner core of Centure's work for 8 years on NLG is irredeemably ugly says the guy who now only shills for the Florin, yet another Centure project with the same exact genetics of ugly Gulden? Way to support the parents of these kids/coins. You must have been an abysmal personal trainer with that kind of hasty defeatist attitude. Have you sold that Gulden van yet? Must be a tough thing to have just laying around since you must think driving in it makes you ugly according to your logic?
The problem is not the code but no ambition outside of the code for both projects. No captain on Gulden but a different result was expected with no captain on Florin because of low supply. Low supply coins also need a figurehead at the helm and not a free for all because free for all means everyone is waiting for someone else to do work while only a few make financial gain got being lazy AF.
a user called Doxholiday was also shouting about burning coins and paying for exchanges but the community rightfully banned and ignored him.
and who got banned for asking for Novo coins to get burned and rewards halved? Double standards ? You must be a Novo team member who is having a good laugh.
Gulden is nothing more then a feeder coin for Novo, The question is not if but when the Gulden loyalists will stop putting up bitcoin on bittrex when they open their eyes to what is really going on.
This post of yours aged well.
The right price for florin is under 50000 sat. No real buy orders to keep the price above 200000 sat. A weeks worth of rewards and those buy orders are good as gone. Gulden on the other hand is real low.
Gulden is really low, that is correct. And i dont see that rise any time soon.
XFL has the potential. Therefor i would still rather put 10k in Florin than in Gulden.
You can't compare the two coins fairly.
Advantages Florin has over Gulden:
1. Founder has a lot of florin and sold his Gulden, more incentive for the founder to see Florin succeed. Priority for development team will always be Florin, you would have to have a literal retard if you didn't think this already.
2. 100% of the block reward goes to holders and miners. Over 70% of the Gulden block reward goes to the founder who has no interest in Gulden.
3. Low supply with the same Gulden community, easier to keep the price higher with florin but it's artificial.
4. Florin took buy support away from Gulden because it's the same community buying two coins.
5. Appetite for buying Gulden is at a all time low due to trust, the Gulden blockchain itself is well kept but it's all the activities outside the Gulden blockchain that is a problem.
Put a gun to my head and I will also invest 10k in Florin, what is frustrating is the founders complaining that the Gulden price is not covering the costs of development when it's obvious why it's not. It was a crystal clear destination for Gulden
when the 2nd coin was created.
Well summed up Post.
I have just indicated to the GAB that I will no longer strive for a new Gulden or an adjustment of the current Gulden. It costs me too much energy and I can't think of a good solution, maybe I'm just completely wrong and it's good as it is. I will therefore no longer post texts about a whale problem or anything in that direction.
However, one challenge remains and that is budget for development. I don't know how we can solve that, but it is a problem.
Thanks for everyone who contributed to the discussion in any way. All input has been useful to me. The discussion was fierce and unfiltered, especially on my part. That's who I am and I can't pretend otherwise, also because I see others as equal and experience it that way, since the responses my way are harsh as well. Which I have no problem with. It's not a contest, but if it was, the opponents won. Congratulations and thanks for pushing your point of view.
However, one challenge remains and that is budget for development. I don't know how we can solve that, but it is a problem.
Thanks for everyone who contributed to the discussion in any way. All input has been useful to me. The discussion was fierce and unfiltered, especially on my part. That's who I am and I can't pretend otherwise, also because I see others as equal and experience it that way, since the responses my way are harsh as well. Which I have no problem with. It's not a contest, but if it was, the opponents won. Congratulations and thanks for pushing your point of view.
Where is the funding for the florin pump going to come from ? Look at the price of Florin!
He gets it.
I start to see the correlation between Gulden price and Florin perfomance. Rijk won't give up on a new premine for himself? Force more negativity on Gulden until the community gives up and lets Rijk have a new premine?
Don't go buy a lot of Gulden or Florin if you not a influener yourself or it will end badly for you.
This must be the dumbest thing i read on here fore a while, and that is an achievement because there is a lot of dumb sh*t being said on here in the past :-)
Before claiming it's the dumbest thing you've read, think about it.
Rijk has admitted it's up to the community or whoever invests to make the coin successful outside of development, if I buy 20% of the florin supply and I know I can't put any effort into it's success how much motivation is there with the other 80% who own coins?
What if a few own 50% and they investors like me, who is going to go to conferences, do promoting etc to make my investment successful.
With coins like HEX as another poster mentioned, you have Richard Heart doing all that promotional work and a development team which = less risk for investors as you have a team driving it's complete success.
Florin and Gulden have a dev team but no one is driving it's success, it's up to us and I can't so I would rather invest in other coins that have a complete plan.
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Rijk thanks for talking about bitcointalk in lounge. I didn't want to express my opinion on slack because I will look dumb and this forum I feel I can be more open with my thoughts.
Tomu thoughts is the same impressions I had, as a crypto newbie I had no idea we had to help make Gulden work if we invest in Gulden. It's true I didn't understand the concept of decentralization and as a guy that has his own life, family and work I can't do much
besides promote to people in my circle. The problem I find is most of these people are in my shoes where they can't contribute to Gulden by creating development,most know less about crypto then I do and I don't know a lot.
Is it possible to add to Gulden.com before people buy that they must contribute if they make an investment, if this was communicated better you will have less problems but understand it will scare people away if they have to work on it when they don't understand it.
It's why it's easy to scam people in this industry.
For young people who have a lot of free time and can code, Gulden is the perfect coin because of it's low value and can help turn Gulden into a gem. This might be your target audience , developers without work and you can use the premine to pay them.
Speaking for myself I am useless as a investor to this coin because I don't add value besides my purchases on bitcoinmeester before Gulden was delisted.
I got advise from a younger work college to invest in Hex last year and that is a coin where you can invest and pray the people behind it are not scammers. With this coin the community is not asked to do work when they invest and my small investment is up over 1000%. For people in my shoes coins like this are more attractive because no work is required from us. Most people have their own lives to lead and don't have time to help out in a practical way.
Tomu thoughts is the same impressions I had, as a crypto newbie I had no idea we had to help make Gulden work if we invest in Gulden. It's true I didn't understand the concept of decentralization and as a guy that has his own life, family and work I can't do much
besides promote to people in my circle. The problem I find is most of these people are in my shoes where they can't contribute to Gulden by creating development,most know less about crypto then I do and I don't know a lot.
Is it possible to add to Gulden.com before people buy that they must contribute if they make an investment, if this was communicated better you will have less problems but understand it will scare people away if they have to work on it when they don't understand it.
It's why it's easy to scam people in this industry.
For young people who have a lot of free time and can code, Gulden is the perfect coin because of it's low value and can help turn Gulden into a gem. This might be your target audience , developers without work and you can use the premine to pay them.
Speaking for myself I am useless as a investor to this coin because I don't add value besides my purchases on bitcoinmeester before Gulden was delisted.
I got advise from a younger work college to invest in Hex last year and that is a coin where you can invest and pray the people behind it are not scammers. With this coin the community is not asked to do work when they invest and my small investment is up over 1000%. For people in my shoes coins like this are more attractive because no work is required from us. Most people have their own lives to lead and don't have time to help out in a practical way.
This a is a good post, can I ask that no one responds until Rijk addresses this concern I have raised for ages with a ship without a Captain. Investors don't know they investing into a coin where everyone is waiting on someone else to make a success.
WAIT FOR A RESPONSE FROM RIJK PLS
Gulden should have a dual setup.
A community leader that is knowledgeable and flamboyant and can get out their and promote Gulden as a leader. This leader gets paid a salary from the premine.
Rijk remains the leader of development and does not get involved with the community. Only manages development and development is paid monthly by the premine.
Premine in a multisig address between 3 people. Community Leader, Rijk and 1 other trusted person in the community.
The third person should have accounting skills and handle administration of all outgoing expenditure that can later be shown to the community.
This removes all the distrust of premine used for other nefarious reasons or Rijk using it for a family trust. 3 people keep a eye on each other.
A community leader that is knowledgeable and flamboyant and can get out their and promote Gulden as a leader. This leader gets paid a salary from the premine.
Rijk remains the leader of development and does not get involved with the community. Only manages development and development is paid monthly by the premine.
Premine in a multisig address between 3 people. Community Leader, Rijk and 1 other trusted person in the community.
The third person should have accounting skills and handle administration of all outgoing expenditure that can later be shown to the community.
This removes all the distrust of premine used for other nefarious reasons or Rijk using it for a family trust. 3 people keep a eye on each other.
Lol “community leader”, here this person is going to lead you now. You have to bow now.
Why ask for a premine if you don't want a leader?
if he showed the same leadership in organising premines and dev rewards we would be at 1 Euro per coin.
Rijk wants to be the owner but does not want to be a captain. A captain is the one that leads by example. The successful coins have a figure head representing the coin. Some doing this without a premine but invested themselves.
I read florin.org and it's the same BS of I have a premine but I don't want responsibility. When you get a premine IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, if you want to create a coin where the community has to work then create a coin without a premine.
To florin investors this is going to be your situation in 3 years, you can laugh at us gulden investors today but your time will come.
I read florin.org and it's the same BS of I have a premine but I don't want responsibility. When you get a premine IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, if you want to create a coin where the community has to work then create a coin without a premine.
To florin investors this is going to be your situation in 3 years, you can laugh at us gulden investors today but your time will come.
Rijk is on the only captain who jumps ship before his passengers and crew, proceeds to sink his own ship while everyone is still onboard and then asks the survivors to come join him on his new ship.
I don't know what world a person like this lives on if he thinks people will trust a new Gulden run by the same Captain who flees ship asking for a new bag of gold and arrogant enough to say you need to make the ship work while I take money from the premine.
I don't know what world a person like this lives on if he thinks people will trust a new Gulden run by the same Captain who flees ship asking for a new bag of gold and arrogant enough to say you need to make the ship work while I take money from the premine.