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1.  I don't think there are any problems.  Bitcoin Testnet being large is a feature.  Testnet is larger than it has ever been.  Being this large has resulted in "bugs" being found and all types of benefits.

2.  I never made any agreement.  Nor was I represented in any agreement.  

3.  Bitcoin Testnet isn't traded for "money" it is traded for Bitcoin.  Bitcoin is not money.  Lots of people argue that it is worthless, so two worthless imaginary internet coins trading against each other isn't that flabbergasting.  

As I said in a email, DOGE had a 1 billion coin per day block reward for 50 days at the start and it still traded against Bitcoin! (god lol)



This actually was never a problem.  Our faucet never ran out of Testnet coins.

What happened was that I allowed users to deposit money from other Testnet faucets directly into their exchange account.  This gave them easy access to drain competitors.

Thus far, I have stopped those direct deposits from being made into our exchange by implementing a minimum deposit fee.  After seeing the continued hostility, we will likely discuss removing these features and allowing our users to hit third-party faucets again directly.

Other faucets will run out of coins... we will not.

This is called a sound business plan vs a bunch of group that think they have the right to offer a service non-competitively.  .  


Jesus fucking Christ, did you just call me a scammer and then suggest doing the same thing I am doing in the same breath?  . Using my god damn website!!!! LOL.



If you do this, I suspect it won't work out as you've imagined.  Scorched Earth is a two-way war tactic.  It'd be a shame if that market had a 50% trading fee... oopsie there goes half your little "scammer" Dev income!  It reminds me of how Steve Jobs dealt with Andy Miller:  https://youtube.com/shorts/VaY9r25qp5I?si=J1bk9SY0H06CsDae

There is no honor among thieves, and I consider your proposal putting you into that arena.

I have many other tools at my disposal for this.  The way the orders in the books stack, the number of confirmations, the ability to withdraw, and the list keeps running.

I might even freeze the premined account (locks market activity, withdrawals, and any other type of transfer) and demand KYC of any beneficiary... meaning you.  I need a copy of your driver's license, maybe even a social security card scan, and your mom's maiden name!  This may be required for *every* Bitcoin Core developer who is going to be receiving coins and/or has access to these massive, questionable Github changes.

Then wait for a lawsuit so I can use Requests for Admissions or Interrogatories... which would be very interesting.  

I swear to god, if I end up having to wake up at 8am for court involving fucking Testnet... you are going to be dealing with one fiercely pissed off individual!


Testnet v5 - Normal POW with a set expiration date for Testnet 6.  Premine it and make some dev coins, but don't be a dick about it or I'll fuck you six ways from Sunday.

We can do Testnet v6 whenever Testnet 5 starts trading... LoL!!!!!!!  Shit, I don't even think I have to launch a market any more for speculators to be interested in a new version.  

Many already consider me the Guardian of Testnet... I enjoy it and I like taking care of the community.

Expect us.

It should be mentioned that I operate one of the only remaining Testnet v3 faucets as well.  Even with the sudden rush of users, I think we've only had our faucet go dry for a few days at a time.  Mostly to take a few days and just attempt to shake off the abusers.

https://altquick.com/faucet/

My organization has been giving away Bitcoin Testnet since 2022.

I likely know the miner "tb1qum986qkqf363jhaau2nlavyehdqg487p8m2ydu".  It seems to me that he is making a statement.

They are doing a better job at mining than you... This doesn't defeat the purpose of Testnet, it means that you lack the logic to intelligently mine even in a "worthless" network, and you need to get better.

Creating a new Testnet isn't going to permit you to do a shitty job and still be rewarded... that is just unrealistic.

PRO TIP:  Mine dif 1, save the solutions, set your laptop to rush to submit at 20 min + 1 second.  Turn the ASICS off and mine smarter, not harder.

Yes, they do (currently). 

I don't know why Trezor wrote such a horribly inaccurate article that AI is now referencing... *facepalm* (https://trezor.io/learn/a/bitcoin-testnet?srsltid=AfmBOoriqgkaUp7wtoC54621B9Ij88xD-If9KROcUqMqBNgWo1Qz6n6L)

I'd say drugs, kid porn and extortion go against lot of peoples principles as well, but it still occurs in Bitcoin because they see it as a long term store of value and easy to move.

Keep that shit out of Testnet with a firm date to depreciate the latest version.


It isn't that simple.  Bitcoin Testnet 3 is trading for over 10x Bitcoin Testnet 4 at the time of this post.  That is *insane* to me.

Bitcoin Testnet is actually being used by people who don't care, it is really a crazy thing to see.


People should gamble their testnet to practice + evaluate if the website is provably fair in "action".

So what. People get a chance to see how it feels to gamble with something that will lead them to Bitcoin?  Casinos dump coins + give them away spreading the network and being large is a good thing, not a bad thing.

The misconception years ago was 0.00001 TBTC was more than enough to dust, but as https://citrea.xyz/bridge shows, having a few coins on hand isn't a bad thing for research.  Testnet has and is evolving remarkably fast.  There are many other examples, but that's the hot startup of the week in public testing.

Everyone testing Citrea at scale will dump for anything when they are done because getting $50 is a nice lunch.  The person that buys them hopefully has big plans for them and the process repeats, hopefully with no long-term hopes.

I think I have led the most successful "attack" against a Bitcoin Ideology every demonstrated in real life and not just theory(?)

What a crazy fucking world... all because I want to be free to do what I want with cryptocurrency, help other people, and I don't blindly go along with "Gentlemen agreements" that I never fucking agreed to and nor was I represented.

Reserved.

It should be noted, the whole reason I got into cryptocurrency faucets (which evolved) was because I got sick of people "acting" good and really just fucking robbing faucet donors, like myself!!! 

Since I own my faucet, I know the coins go out.

My faucet maintains Bitcoin for free still frequently, we've only ran out of Bitcoin Testnet v3 a few times (133 v3 in there atm), and we've never ran out of Bitcoin Testnet v4.

This whole bitch is because I do my job and there is a demand in the market... if Bitcoin Core is going to assign anyone as guardian of testnet (with rules), I think I'm a shoe in.

I would like to nominate myself.  I would need to talk more about the expectations of the position, but I feel pretty well positioned to handle everything described.

I can assure you I can handle Bitcoin Testnet as stated by Greg and probably more so.  I'm also well-positioned for the above proposal... as I am the exchange owner, I would still earn my fees (with your assistance, but I think I've already been assisted by a few that type on the Mailing list.)  I could charge a 50% fee for the market, and a tester would still do business in order to test someone's project they were really excited about + I have the ability to freeze suspicious bad actors.  I would potentially consider this an attack, and it would be interesting to see how it played out.

I compare it to a Walmart parking lot vs an Aldi parking lot.  Aldi charges .25 for a big cart and you get that 25 cents back when it is put up.  Walmart is a shitshow and Aldi has kids/homeless/me walking around returning carts for them.  I imagine anything you do, I can summon those carts back.  We have other options as well, but I don't have to discuss my exact intents and write it out in code... I can move swiftly due to no bureaucracy and I don't get a paycheck every week, I have to make my paycheck through services.  Thankfully, there is a demand for some of those services.

I got a good chuckle at "It may just not be possible to prevent degens from trading tn coins for money, -- I mean consider the altcoins that some people spend money on Smiley,  there is basically no low bar on how crappy you can make a cryptocurrency where some scammer won't try to sell it to some fool.  But what can't be prevented can at least be turned into a benefit."  I agree.  Trust me, this market has blown my mind more than anyone... it is absurd and it is evolving!!! Let these folks evolve.

Establish a set day for a totally new testnet and drop the old version out of the current core... it feels so obvious to me, that will keep the long term people out and short term people have a reason to put up a cart + keep stuff not scarce.

I would propose Jan 7, 2030.  Build the mindset that any degen that holds past then has an "expired option" type leftbehind test coin.  (This feels so obvious to me)

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I think it is a *terrible* idea to premine Testnet coins.  If the punishment is selling the coins... you are literally doing 50% of the exchange owners duty to get paid themselves!  It's such a fucking mess, but you almost need to be the one with the exchange to challenge the exchange.  Clearly, my little shit exchange that has bothered nobody, is still getting brought up by people who should be focused on Bitcoin with its $1,880,000,000,000 market cap. 

IMO Testnet should have normal POW, all the reasons it doesn't are complete bullshit.  Fork it, v5, or whatever you got to do in order to have POW that is like Bitcoin (after all, that's the goal, right?)

Perhaps table it till 2029 and reconfirm the 2030 date.  (These dates can be moved up of course, but 10 years felt like a pretty good spot.  It isn't a huge pain in the ass to upgrade for the community either... It's a really rough few hours to me while I eat Hot Pockets and watch us upgrade, lol like I told Sjor via email... The exchange (I) MAKE MONEY EVERY VERSION OFF CONFUSED PEOPLE, people won't just give up their v4 coins, the will convert to v5 if they can get *anything* and anything is a small ass number here in Shitcoin.

I figure if you keep the same ideology and fail to see what I see there are only two options:  1.  You fail.  2.  You give up and (very easily could) remove Testnet entirely, which would be terrible sad.

This is an interesting proposal though from Greg.


I'm trust worthy and I do my job.  There has long since been a theory that people with coins have no vote... I too feel like I have no vote because I need no vote.

God is present.  Not to sound like a nutter, but this thing surges, I've studied worthless testnet for years it is amazing + so are the users, and it is hungry to expand... kill the long term value with a set date far out, don't upgrade this thing weekly, and don't fucking worry about it man, I got this... with or without premined coins, the find there way to me anyways.  Make it not such a big deal and it won't be a big deal... having Testnet debates on how to make it even more shitty (yall did a fine job with v4 rofl) popup in the mailing list for 10-15% of the emails regarding my private company is absurd.

Merge mine testnet?  *shrugs*

^^^^^^^^^^^^

This, exactly this. 

That's my thoughts as well.

If you don't think something has value, you sell it.  If you don't want to own it to sell it, owning where it is sold to accumulate a balance to sell is fairly smart right?

I'm not saying I do that, I'm just pointing out how wolves can hide in sheep's clothing.

Bitcoin is in the same category as most other cryptocurrencies.  Sorry. (The one that rhymes with Nipple is not a cryptocurrency IMO)

I can't help but find it gross that people are cheering for governments to invest peoples retirements into cryptocurrencies or worse, AltStocks that milk would be Bitcoin investors.

I'm glad this got Veto'ed... at least there is a sane politician in office in AZ.

Signet is not Testnet.  I won't waste my time explaining this to someone as knowledgeable as you.

You know better. <3

Thank you kindly.

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Come to find out that this OP_Return drama is linked to a startup named:  Citre in order for them to do business... guess what coin they are currently using?  Bitcoin Testnet 4 and you need 10 whole coins.  https://citrea.xyz/bridge

How cute, but I fully understand why.  It just further shows "Faucets give 0.0001 TBTC and that is more than enough for testing your app."  Testnet has evolved into a way to test other peoples apps and dust doesn't cut it when transacting with each other on a blockchain.  Dust sucks... as we can see some people so passionately feel. 

Personally, I'm a dust king lol, I can shit on your blockchain like no other, Dooglus (Just-Dice owner) and I have butted heads over it, he is the one who built a website better than Eric Vorwhatevers Satoshi Dice site and part of why he did it is because of all the onchain junk SD created.. Then I got into faucets and used a whole Indonesian army to dust up a coin we use on JD.  I can blow services wallets up and make it a bitch to sync (we hit Poloniex privately as well for fucking with my withdraws so much).

*People need to pay attention to Bitcoin Testnet because it is where the most extreme behaviors & actions can be found.*

I've now used this pool for a few days... it does pretty good.

The CPU miners are still annoying, but this is a way to at least get coins without using faucet or trading.

I'm hitting the network with 1.5 PH and due to the CPU fuckery, I'm only hitting around 5% of produced blocks. 

Bitcoin would be completely fucked, the only thing more fucked would be the users.

The hot news of Bitcoin this week is Bitcoin Core attempting to remove OP_returns in order to pave the way for a new startup (Citrea) to easily conduct business in Bitcoin.

Interested in trying Citrea.xyz for free, but don't have any Testnet v4 coins?  I've got you covered for 60 days!

To receive your free 10 Testnet coins you will need to make a $20 deposit, this can be paid in Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency that is reasonably mainstream.  After you return the 10 Testnet coins, I will return your deposit in full.

1. "I am requesting 10 v4 Testnet coins with a deposit paid in ________.  My coins can be returned to *insert address* after I return the Testnet coins."
2.  I will send you an address to make your $20 deposit.
3.  Use your Testnet coins for up to 60 days.
4.  Return the Testnet coins to the address I provided you in step #2.
5.  Receive your full deposit back (minus miner fees)

Any Testnet coins not returned in 60 days will be considered as lost and the deposit will be forfeited.