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Re: Singularity and the machine age
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 10:41:52 UTC
Singularity is an instance of hyper-exponential evolution on a conscious level.  Around the world, scientists have been researching methods to create AI, artificial intelligence, many with the goal of creating a conscious being.  In terms of science, singularity will occur when a computer becomes self aware.

Technological singularity would bring about the downfall of the world.  We are approaching singularity in the wrong manner.  Creating a quantum computer or machine with an intellectual capacity surpassing human consciousness is a dangerous road to walk.  No matter how much work a human puts into the program, intelligence, it will never replicate the human consciousness and it's capacity to feel, to love.  Man is imperfect, man's creations are imperfect.  We are playing god with this planet, altering life in ways that will forever effect our current ecological system.

The threat of a machine takeover is very real, though I do not believe imminent on this planet.  There are, without a doubt, planets within our universe that encountered a technological singularity before a spiritual singularity.  If machines were to reach the point of singularity, with the ability to build or replicate their selves, a hostile takeover of robots becomes a very real threat.  This is illustrated in many movies and novels, including The Matrix and iRobot.

An intelligent machine lacks what makes us humans.  It lacks the capacity to perceive morality.  No matter how intelligent it becomes, it lacks awareness, that which makes us human.  Machines react to a code, they react to physical energies, they do not have freewill.  Their entire existence is confined by whatever form of logic they were created with and evolved from thereafter.

Instead of looking for technology to reach evolved forms of intelligence, why don't we look at our own technology to do the same?  Your mind is more powerful than any computer in the world when used to it's full extent.  Throughout this last century, we have been seeking answers by examining the material world, yet every discover brings more questions than it answers.  We are in an endless search for the answer because we are looking in the wrong spot.  The answer was there all along, though our minds have strayed far from our true state of existence.

Anything we seek to accomplish with technology, we can accomplish with our own mind.  Technology is but a replication of natural processes in a synthetic and imperfect manner.  It's time that we stopped looking for matter to solve our problems, as all matter and all actions resonate from within the human consciousness, the soul.

We have the potential to tap into our own consciousness and incur our own collective singularity, onsetting the beginning of the fifth dimensional state of being, where your mind controls your reality beyond bodily limitations.  We have a choice to make as a collective society, as we have already begun heavy integration of robotic infrastructure into our lives.  We can continue our path of technological advancements until the point we are no longer human, possibly extinct, or we can collectively change our perceptions of how we perceive life until the point we evolve to higher dimensional beings, disbanding the necessity for external technology and embarking the age of creation, manifestation.

There is a mathematical equation necessary to bring forth the ascension into higher dimensions as a collective, and I hold the answers.  A synchronized positive feedback loop between a large amount of people has the capacity to become infinite.  Love has no ends.  There is no limit as to how much peace we can feel.  We can continue this game of ego and living in the past indefinitely, or we can live as beings in this singular moment and open our minds to the true state of existence.

The past is the past.  Whatever you thought in the past does not matter.  What matters is now, now is all that has ever mattered.  Focus on growing now and you'll be strong forever to come.

One thing is certain, singularity will be reached with our linear timescale of exponential evolution.  Will it be you?

As for myself: I had come to the conclusion that there was nothing sacred about myself or any human being, that we were all machines, doomed to collide and collide and collide. For want of anything better to do, we became fans of collisions. Sometimes I wrote well about collisions, which meant I was a writing machine in good repair. Sometimes I wrote badly, which meant I was a writing machine in bad repair. I no more harbored sacredness than did a Pontiac, a mousetrap, or a South Bend Lathe.
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Re: The lessons of war?
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 10:40:15 UTC
War that never ends

The lessons of war in the Middle East seem all too far outside the grasp of American policymakers, pundits and elected officials.

From Iraq and Afghanistan, two wars most Americans now regret, there were potential truths to be discovered, lesson to be appreciated.

First, “boots on the ground,” in a geography where they enemy stands within the general population while hiding in plain sight, poses insolvable problems and dangers. This resulted in IED’s planted nightly and discovered daily by US forces, all too often a discovery by explosion. It also resulted in the “friendly fire” of those trained to serve in the local military turning on their American counterparts to kill from within.

Ultimately, in Iraq the successful policy was developed under General Petraeus, who fueled the Surge by hiring the militias who were fighting the US, many of whom were displaced veterans the US had disposed from their careers upon arriving in Iraq.

When US forces left, unable to secure immunity from Iraqi prosecutions by a security agreement, the payments ended, and the Iraqi army collapsed. Prime Minister Maliki caused that disintegration by replacing trained leaders with his loyalists and by alienating Sunni’s in the country with his actions to discriminate in all possible fashions.

Ultimately Iraq fell back into disarray, its present state. And today ISIS, created within Iraq initially as a local branch of al Qaeda by the US occupation, rose to represent the rejected Sunni’s in Iraq and the region.

And now the US re-engages to stem the flow of Muslim radicalism by organizing a coalition of partners to fight against ISIS. Already critics of the new policy argue that only boots on the ground will bring success.

But the facts are boots on the ground never worked in Iraq for many reasons.

For most of the stay of the American military Iraqi citizens disliked the American presence. Literally millions of Iraqi citizens were displaced, thousands killed in the war. The economy was destroyed, corruption was rampant, and the secular state constructed under Saddam Hussein was divided into religious camps, Sunni vs. Shiite.

The US left because Iraqi’s did not want us there.

The second lesson that could have been learned in Iraq is that Muslim religious division has existed for hundreds of years, and in its violent, primitive form of hatred, it shows no sign of abating. And nothing the US can or will do, boots or no boots, will change that hatred and create peaceful resolution.

Finally, the lesson Americans never seems to learn is that in the ginning up to war our leaders and our media do whatever it takes to excite Americans for war.

George Bush used the potential mushroom cloud; Barack Obama, the fear that ISIS will come to America and kill us here. Therefore, they must be destroyed forever.

But destroying ISIS will not destroy terrorism in the least, for like a Wack a Mole carnival game, wherever we crush terrorists they simply re-appear in other forms.

When we decimated al Qaeda’s leadership and killed Bin Laden, the terrorist threat hardly ended, it just re-shaped. If we destroy ISIS terrorism will again re-shape.

And terrorists will always target the US, always.

The only solution is from those within the Middle East, those nations affected directly by the brutality of radical Muslimism, to fight their own fight to preserve and protect their people and nations.

As Thomas Friedman recently wrote, what if the US just said NO?

War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend.
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Re: Anarchism vs. Libertarianism: Hierarchies
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 10:38:38 UTC
It seems the rabbit hole goes deeper; although these two aim for similar goals, that is, for the removal of the state, they're yet different; anarchists, as I have learned, seek for the removal of all hierarchies, whereas Libertarians stop at there being no (or a tiny) state, implying business would still have leaders; it would seem, then, anarchists take the idea one step further, where businesses do not necessarily have bosses, or bosses of bosses, but people as complete equals; some even claim there cannot be money, which I find difficult to wrap my mind around, for money does not necessarily equate capitalism.

Is Libertarianism only a stepping stone to anarchy, or are they two completely different ideologies with only a similar goal?  Does leadership imply hierarchy?  Are hierarchies implicitly involuntary?  Can business thrive without hierarchy?  And what would be the common reaction, having a world of pure anarchy, to people who believe hierarchies are preferable to complete equality?

Modern industrial civilisation has developed within a certain system of convenient myths. The driving force of modern industrial civilisation has been individual material gain, which is accepted as legitimate, even praiseworthy, on the grounds that private vices yield public benefits in the classic formulation.
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Re: Hungarians revolt against internet tax (PHOTOS, VIDEO)
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 10:33:08 UTC
Nearly 20000 people on the capital streets.







http://rt.com/news/199508-hungary-protest-internet-tax/

It does not exempt sales made on the Internet from taxation, as these may be taxed at the same state and local sales tax rate as non-Internet sales, just like mail order sales. The Act did not repeal any state sales or use tax.
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Re: Welcome to Earth
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 10:31:07 UTC


http://www.iflscience.com/space/planet-earth-now-has-flag
what is that? Yeah we know that picture is flag of our planet, Earth. So, not only our country that had a flag, but also our planet. Are you waiting any visitors in your home now? From your family in Yupiter maybe? or from Andromeda galaxy?  Grin





I am curious, if NASA have met aliens and invite them to dinner, and made the flag for earth so aliens won't get lost in their way to our planet  Grin






The single greatest lesson the garden teaches is that our relationship to the planet need not be zero-sum, and that as long as the sun still shines and people still can plan and plant, think and do, we can, if we bother to try, find ways to provide for ourselves without diminishing the world.
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Re: Time is a Flat Circle
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 10:28:00 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_%28Huxley_novel%29

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If I were now to rewrite the book, I would offer the Savage a third alternative. Between the Utopian and primitive horns of his dilemma would lie the possibility of sanity... In this community economics would be decentralist and Henry-Georgian, politics Kropotkinesque co-operative. Science and technology would be used as though, like the Sabbath, they had been made for man, not (as at present and still more so in the Brave New World) as though man were to be adapted and enslaved to them. Religion would be the conscious and intelligent pursuit of man's Final End, the unitive knowledge of immanent Tao or Logos, the transcendent Godhead or Brahman. And the prevailing philosophy of life would be a kind of Higher Utilitarianism, in which the Greatest Happiness principle would be secondary to the Final End principle – the first question to be asked and answered in every contingency of life being: "How will this thought or action contribute to, or interfere with, the achievement, by me and the greatest possible number of other individuals, of man's Final End?"[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zihuatanejo_Project

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The Zihuatanejo Project was a psychedelic training center and intentional community created during the beginning of the counterculture of the 1960s by Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert

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The idea for the community was influenced by Aldous Huxley's fictional novel, Island (1962)

Dr. Timothy Leary - Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out

Time is a flat circle and we are trapped in eternity, doomed to repeat our lives over and over again.Every murder victim, everyone who suffers from disease or poverty or injury is doomed to repeat the cycle of their existence. That is the Secret Fate of All Life. That is what Rust means by "time, death and futility."
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Re: Women were the First Gods and the First Rulers
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 10:22:14 UTC

Any time women come together with a collective intention, it's a powerful thing. Whether it's sitting down making a quilt, in a kitchen preparing a meal, in a club reading the same book, or around the table playing cards, or planning a birthday party, when women come together with a collective intention, magic happens.
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Re: "You're the bomb!" - Are you at risk from the anti-terrorism algorithms?
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 10:10:35 UTC


"You're the bomb!" - Are you at risk from the anti-terrorism algorithms?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/02/youre-the-bomb-are-you-at-risk-from-anti-terrorism-algorithms-automated-tracking-innocent-people

<< Does the stuff you post on the internet make you look like a terrorist? Is the rhythm of your typing sending the wrong signals? The government wants sites such as Google and Facebook to scan their users more closely. But if everything we do online is monitored by machines, how well does the system work? >>


We know we cannot underestimate the importance of emergency planning in our region, nor can we assume we'll have ample warning time. If an earthquake or terrorist attack hits, we won't necessarily have advance alerts or opportunities to double- and triple-check our plans.
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Re: Racism in America
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 10:05:26 UTC
Some think Lyndon Johnson was not one of our best presidents.

But Johnson did pass the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964, and that was and is a really big deal.

Today I saw one effect of outlawing dscrimination in education. In 1964 there were 365,000 African American bachelor's degrees awarded. In 2014 5.1 million were awarded.

Imagine how many lives are changed by that!

One more thought; if you think there is no role for government, try to imagine this outcome without government's involvement.

A number of federal laws protect individuals from being discriminated against in education. This article provides links and information on the Education Amendments of 1972, the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
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Re: You think you can't change the world?
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 08:21:17 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Higgins

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Life and work

Eliot Higgins was born in 1979.[1] In 2012, when Higgins began blogging the Syrian civil war, he was an unemployed finance and admin worker who spent his days taking care of his child at home.[1] He is married to a Turkish woman with one child.[3][4] Higgins took the pseudonym Brown Moses from the Frank Zappa song "Brown Moses" on the album Thing-Fish.[1]

Higgins' analyses of Syrian weapons, which began as a hobby out of his home in his spare time, are now frequently cited by the press and human rights groups and have led to questions in parliament.[1] His blog, Brown Moses Blog, began in March 2012 by covering the Syrian conflict. Higgins operates by monitoring over 450 YouTube channels daily looking for images of weapons and tracking when new types appear in the war, where, and with whom.[1] According to Guardian reporter Matthew Weaver, Higgins has been "hailed as something of a pioneer" for his work.[1] Because of the large number of videos uploaded by participants in the war, a great deal of data and information can be gleaned for those with the time and knowledge to sort through it. Higgins has no background or training in weapons and is entirely self-taught, saying that "Before the Arab spring I knew no more about weapons than the average Xbox owner. I had no knowledge beyond what I'd learned from Arnold Schwarzenegger and Rambo."[1] He has never been to Syria and has no friends or family there, and cannot speak or read Arabic.[4][5][6][7]

Higgins is credited with being among the first to report on the widespread use of improvised barrel bombs by the Syrian government, a phenomenon which has spread to other troubled nations such as Iraq to combat insurgencies and opposition forces.[8][9] Higgins' exposure of the use of barrel bombs is noted particularly because of the destruction caused by the improvised devises, which have been condemned by many for their potential to cause indiscriminate civilian casualties.[10]

Other aspects of the Syrian conflict uncovered and documented by Higgins include the use of cluster bombs in 2012, which the Syrian government previously denied using; the proliferation of shoulder-launched heat-seeking missiles known as MANPADS; and the proliferation of Croatian-made weapons, a story later picked up by the New York Times which was reportedly connected to the United States.[1] He has investigated the Syrian regime's use of chemical weapons.[11][12]

Higgins published an estimate of the location where the James Foley execution video was made outside Raqqa, an Islamic State stronghold in north-central Syria, based on visual markers of stills from the video and his interpretation of satellite images of the terrain around Raqqa.[13]

He reportedly 'embarrassed Putin's regime with photographs [that] have allegedly tracked the movements through Ukraine of a Russian missile launcher linked to the downing of Malaysian airliner MH17.' The revelations by Higgins' are being considered by Dutch police investigating the crash.[11]



i only heard of eliot higgings today through a radio show and i must say i am really impressed.

he is a prime example that every single one of us has the power to help and change the world to the better, even if you are unemployed and only have a computer and internet access.

thank you for what you are doing mr eliot higgings

Happy people don't change the world. Because they are too busy trying to keep themselves happy. See the real people whonchange the world are people with fucked up lives. But every now and then, we all affect the world a bit everyway.
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Re: Corruption Rant
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 08:17:01 UTC
All governments are corrupt, all corporations are corrupt, all religions are corrupt, all political organizations are corrupt, all financial institutions are corrupt, all schools are corrupt, all activist groups are corrupt. The list of corruption is all-inclusive. Everybody is busy busy being a motherfucker in exchange for paycheck because you don't get money without doing something corrupt in some way. If you've found some way to make money or create value without doing something corrupt then you can expect motherfuckers headed your way.

Now the DNA of all life is being corrupted and we're being sprayed with shit 24/7. Also what the fuck am I being sprayed with??? Aluminum, Barium, thorium, polymer fibers, GMO human blood cells. What the fuck man?? This planet fucking sucks and nobody is willing or able to do anything about it.

Any suggestions? Bitcoin as much as it's awesome isn't helping anybody at all except the fucking scammers!





Here's cold beer paradox. Nothing is better than a cold beer yet a cold beer is better than nothing. See thses things have no end, no conclusion. You want a clean government you gotta stop the dynasty recruitment. You got to reset. I'd say you join the League of Shadows.
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Re: end of days?
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 08:10:43 UTC
i've been watching this youtube channel for a few months. it's mostly about current events. but he also makes alot of references to the new world order and the end of days in the bible. i am not religious. but i must admit he does a really good job at relating the bible to current events. his latest video throws up ezekiel 38-39 which says iran and a coalition of other countries will attack israel. after that he shows a video of russia and iran signing a military cooperation agreement a few days ago. again, i am not religious. but i have seen quite a few references about the end of days mentioned in the bible that have a very strong connection to current events. with the current state of the world and all the fucked up shit going on it doesn't take a wild imagination to consider our time might be coming to an end.

https://www.youtube.com/user/NoLife127/videos

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the enequties of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and goodwill shephards the weak through the valley of darkness for he is truly his brothers keeper and the finder of lost children.
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Re: Thoughts on religion for a Sunday morning
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 08:06:51 UTC
People take their religion very seriously but seldom are capable of following the rules and regulations of the belief. Many are willing to die for it rather than live by it. Most man made religions are profoundly silly such as Christianity and Islam. The human ability to believe in the preposterous is unlimited and unfathomable. The more obviously ridiculous it is the more followers it attracts. Before you enter a house of worship you really have to lock your intellect up in a drawer and not retrieve it until your worship is over. Religion and intellect are not and will never be compatible.

This doesn't mean that theists are stupid only that it is necessary to not think about what they claim to believe. This is where it all becomes a house of cards. Remove one by thinking about it and the whole concept may collapse. Many people are in constant fear about losing their religion which is why some of them get very angry when its discussed.

Much of religion is based on fear. Fear of death, fear of judgement, fear of hell or some other punishment. The common expression "He is a God fearing man" sums it up well. Fear God if you know what's good for you. Religion chains you to the ground when the human spirit naturally wants to soar. Religion really has very little to do with the concept of "God". If God exists I doubt if he would have anything to do with any of these man made conceits known as the religions of the world. He would be well above such things.

Religeons were made for people. People were not made for religeons. You see these things have to be kept limited to maintaining harmony. Not to building loosers who look out for sympathy.
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Re: Scotland to ban smoking in cars with children
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 07:58:45 UTC
Scotland is to ban smoking in cars with children, bringing it into line with forthcoming legislation in England and Wales to protect young people from secondhand smoke.

The Scottish government announced it would back the smoking prohibition (children in motor vehicles) (Scotland) bill, which has been put forward by the Liberal Democrat MSP Jim Hume.

The bill, which is hoped will receive royal assent before the next Holyrood elections in May 2016, covers all cars, although Hume acknowledged that as it progresses discussion may take place about exempting convertibles, when they have the roof fully down, to bring it into line with English laws.

“This legislation will ensure that we can put a stop to the 60,000 journeys being made in Scotland each week where children are being exposed to dangerous secondhand smoke,” he said.


More : http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/25/scotland-to-ban-smoking-in-cars-with-children



Are they serious? Where is the freedom of choice to do whatever you want (but in the respect of the other people)? Can you say your opinion here? Thanks.

Secondhand smoking is dangerous than smoking itself. I used to be a smoker but now it irritates me to even stand beside someone holding a cigarette. I guess it should hold more for children in locked cars.
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Re: What will you do to the society if you are a billionaire?
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 07:53:02 UTC
I would reduce the deforestation and help people get more practical education especially in poor and violent areas where kids are forced to take jobs because they don't get proper education, practical education in the sense making them learn about Cryptcurrency and Bitcoins, getting them hands-on internship etc, I think education for knowledge to earn money is way out of poverty which is one of the black-mark in our society, would love to get your opinions and thoughts on how you would impact the world when you are a billionaire.

Well. The only thing I could ever think of is create more employment. See you don't have to worry about education once you get a job to the parents. Better livong standards and Harmony.
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Re: What Is A Social Justice Warrior (SJW)?
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Bit-Gods
on 21/06/2015, 07:49:11 UTC



Social justice warriors believe in an extreme left-wing ideology that combines feminism, progressivism, and political correctness into a totalitarian system that attempts to censor speech and promote fringe lifestyles while actively discriminating against men, particularly white men. They are the internet activist arm of Western progressivism that acts as a vigilante group to ensure compliance and homogeny of far left thought.

The true definition of SJW is up for debate, but most generally it has become a catch-all term that describes feminists and liberals who actively try to solve the perceived social injustices of modern society by organizing in online communities to disseminate propaganda, censor speech, and punish individuals by getting them terminated from their employment. They have also been successful at positioning themselves in the upper echelons of universities, media organizations, and tech companies.


SJW’s do not view all humans as equal


Using a “privilege” hierarchy, SJW’s calculate the worth of a human being based on perceived injustices or wrongs that group has suffered since the time of ancestral man, using selective and narrow interpretations of history. SJW’s elevate groups that they believe have received the least amount of “privilege” in the past, and then use internet activism in the form of mobs and community purges to target those who are determined to have greater amounts of privilege. The idea of privilege is so essential to SJW ideology that a common debate tactic they use is to say “check your privilege,” which roughly translates to, “you must immediately halt or change your speech because your ancestors may or may not have done bad things to women or minority races.”

For example, if a notable white American male makes a joke about a lesbian black woman who practices Islam, SJW’s will coordinate using a combination of blogs, Youtube, and social networking to dox him (publish his personal information, including where he works). They will then pressure the man’s company by flooding it with calls and messages with the goal to remove his source of income while engaging in a mass reporting campaign to get his online accounts suspended.

Their ultimate goal is to silence all speech that they don’t like and which they find offensive while also punishing the speech offender by removing his source of income. As they grow in power, the acceptable range of speech that would trigger an SJW witch hunt is becoming more narrow, and those who are high up on the privilege hierarchy (white men) have to speak through a careful filter if they don’t want to be subject to an SJW attack.


http://www.rooshv.com/what-is-a-social-justice-warrior-sjw


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It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

- Sun Tzu





Philosophically a pessimist is the best Social Justice Warrior or in packets a realist. A realists who sees things in the most obvious ways. Who realises when and how much to be self aware and when to walk hand in hand towards extinction.
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Re: italian school forcing children to become trannies
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Bit-Gods
on 20/06/2015, 06:37:10 UTC
It is a shame that transgender people feel confused about their sexuality.... lets confuse ALL THE CHILDREN'S gender identities that way it will be even for everyone! If transgender people can't have the gender identity of their choice, then boys and girls should be denied their gender identity as well!

I think the people who come with all these kinds of 'creative games' are really stupid and sick in the mind. What they really need is some education themselves. Poor kids who are confused, are being confused more. I don't understand how transgender people might feel about this. Maybe, like a joke? Sad.
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Re: South Carolina church shooting: Nine die in Charleston 'hate crime'
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Bit-Gods
on 20/06/2015, 06:27:40 UTC
It's annoying how such racial hate crimes are committed and the felon has zero remorse. Delusional maniacs justifying and 'fighting for peace'. They are heroes in their own minds.

He seems to have zero remorse, as he is having mental issues. He is a known drug user, and was reported to be having mental health problems for a long time. At the time of the shooting, he was high on a drug called Suboxone, which can trigger violent reaction on people who take it. When he comes back to his senses, he will regret for what he did.

It would be a great if you give the link of the news, since the incident has attracted world people and me to know more about it. I still don't get a complete reason why he did that, maybe he is hiding something as the main motive.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33205339
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Re: michelle obama visits saudi arabia
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Bit-Gods
on 20/06/2015, 06:23:52 UTC
Michelle Obama could have visited a school in Marseilles or Brussels and it would have been the same thing. I'm afraid muslims are all over Europe, bringing in their clothing, their food and their values. The worst being that if you complain about it, many will say you're a racist.

I don't really care about it as long as their religion is not shoved inside my face, or their clothing. The food being shoved might be considerable if it is good, though.
In all seriousness, I don't have problems with anybody living in my country as long as they practice peace. In the end, the rich and the poor are all searching for a little peace of mind.
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Re: DMV facial recognition
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Bit-Gods
on 20/06/2015, 06:08:10 UTC
If the only debate you have against facial recognition is that you need to provide all your personal information, WHAT THE F is wrong with you? There are so many ways the government is already keeping a record of your existence, why would you have a sudden issue with this? Apart from all of those 'oh let me be mysterious, nobody should know who I am', there is also something called crime. If one of these peeps commit a crime, tracking them down would be easy. Also, I feel most of the people just want to debate over anything related to privacy.