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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on 11/07/2016, 13:26:09 UTC

Why? Both Bitcoin and Beanie diamond value is based on artificially limited supply. Why do you think Beanies diamonds are worth so much?

Please educate me.

Fixed.

Why not both? Diamonds are [arguably] pretty, industrial diamonds aren't worth shit. Beanies are [arguably] soft and fuzzy, common Beanies aren't worth shit.
What am I missing?

P.S. Some diamond stats:

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[Suspicious link removed]j.com/articles/SB10001424052748704337004575059723597630174
Geesh!

Amazing paranoia! Replace "suspicious link removed" with "WS," or google "Diamonds Aren't an Investor's Best Friend - WSJ"
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 11/07/2016, 13:19:32 UTC
What do you mean by "troll"? I give you facts, and you call it trolling. You know who does that? Cultists, that's who.

If there was a dollar website where financially illiterate rubes were conned into buying the USD because by December, it would be worth ... let me check ... 1550% as much as it is today? You bet your ass! I'd be all over that shit Cheesy

Comparing Bitcoin to Beanie Babies is trolling (and shows a lack of understanding of a commodity of limited supply).
Why? Both Bitcoin and Beanie value is based on artificially limited supply. Why do you think Beanies are worth so much?
"The company's strategy of deliberate scarcity, producing each new design in limited quantity, restricting individual store shipments to limited numbers of each design and regularly retiring designs, created a huge secondary market for the toys and increased their popularity and value as a collectible." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beanie_Babies
Please educate me.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 11/07/2016, 13:05:25 UTC
[img ]http://i.imgur.com/MfRGEqy.jpg[/img] [$10 in 2014]

Expert off by        ~$290
Bitcoiners off by   ~$9,700 Shocked

You decide . . .

Geometric mean of both 1711:

9700/290 = 35.92

sqrt(35.92) = 5.99

290 * 5.99 = 1711

So, there, most accurate prediction  Kiss

Typical Bitcoiner math Roll Eyes

>So...you're not a "Bitcoiner"?

No. Just like I'm not a Dollarer when I use the USD, or a Waterer when I use water.

Bitcoiner = brainwashed, delusional bitcoin fanatic.

How many dollar websites do you troll?

What do you mean by "troll"? I give you facts, and you call it trolling. You know who does that? Cultists, that's who.

If there was a dollar website where financially illiterate rubes were conned into buying the USD because by December, it would be worth ... let me check ... 1550% as much as it is today? You bet your ass! I'd be all over that shit Cheesy
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 11/07/2016, 12:57:15 UTC
[img ]http://i.imgur.com/MfRGEqy.jpg[/img] [$10 in 2014]

Expert off by        ~$290
Bitcoiners off by   ~$9,700 Shocked

You decide . . .

Geometric mean of both 1711:

9700/290 = 35.92

sqrt(35.92) = 5.99

290 * 5.99 = 1711

So, there, most accurate prediction  Kiss

Typical Bitcoiner math Roll Eyes

>So...you're not a "Bitcoiner"?

No. Just like I'm not a Dollarer when I use the USD, or a Waterer when I use water.

Bitcoiner = brainwashed, delusional bitcoin fanatic. The sort of a guy who thinks BTC will go to $10k by December and cure cancer while doing it.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on 11/07/2016, 12:43:22 UTC
[img ]http://i.imgur.com/MfRGEqy.jpg[/img] [$10 in 2014]

Expert off by        ~$290
Bitcoiners off by   ~$9,700 Shocked

You decide . . .
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 11/07/2016, 12:21:45 UTC
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 11/07/2016, 11:57:56 UTC
Price has been going up for 13 months (not "tanking") with twice as many coins supplied, so it will now go up twice as fast with half as many coins in supply.

Invasion of the duplicitous dumb-asses can resume ...

Dunno ... the price was higher before the Halvening, and now it's ... lower Sad
Is it supposed to do that?
>duplicitous dumb-asses  http://irwinallen.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Smith's_Insults (4 when u need 2 re-up Smiley)

Price was $633 at halving.

Now it is $647.

Price $678 20 minutes before Halvening.

Now it is $646. Sad

High for the day was $666.

Price at halving was $633.

I don't want it both ways, I just wish I didn't listen to you finance gurus.
Cashing out at $780 is dumb, wait 'til the Halvening!
That dump! Like a vicious Stuka screaming towards my hopes and dreams. BALAM! BLAMO!
Smoking crater, with my mangled chunks of my future still crashing on my head.
Sad

Bitcoin will be $10,000 by December.

Quoted for posterity.
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Re: Bitcoin Block Reward Halving Countdown - Excited?
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 11/07/2016, 11:10:21 UTC
I realized that a day from now will already be the halving Smiley I'm pretty excited I don't know about you, are you?
Please share your thoughts and feelings about the halving.. What are your plan of actions and expectations?

P.S.: I come along the site where it gives countdown and detailed information about how many bitcoins are in circulation as of this date and more, check it out: http://bitcoinblockhalf.com

Note: the site above is not mine nor I am affiliated to it. I just find it interesting to share it to you guys Smiley
The halving block has happened, and price of bitcoin will going down slowly, and my plan  just sell bitcoin for fiat and trade alt coins, then price of bitcoin will big chrash on nov 2016 i guess if it happen i will buy bitcoin with all of my idle money.  Grin

Sure thing. Sell all your coin if that is your prediction no one will stop you.

I was told not to sell my bitcoins before the halvening day, because the price will moon on the halvening day.
Is this it? Should I sell now?
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on 10/07/2016, 15:18:13 UTC
^
Probably more than they care about AOL.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 10/07/2016, 14:55:49 UTC
.@Andre#, It's propaganda. Propaganda doesn't have to make sense, it only needs to work on its target demographic.
If the overall effect is positive (if it fosters desired beliefs in the target demographic), it's good. If not? It's bad.
It makes absolutely no difference if you and I cringe when we read it - we're not the target demographic.
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 09/07/2016, 17:12:17 UTC
dammn nigga i just sold before panic selling. Any explanation why this bug?

Still on block 209,999 Sad
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Re: Halving = Less Miners = Slower Transactions
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 09/07/2016, 16:49:33 UTC
There's no reason bitcoin transaction would be slower just because there's less miners as long as the big pool/miners still use hardware and internet which are strong enough to manage bitcoin network.
It takes time for the difficulty to adjust. See bold.
When miners go offline, hashrate goes down, blocks will take longer to solve, and transactions take longer to confirm. This will be compensated for at the next difficulty adjustment, which will happen after 2016 blocks are solved. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty

If you want the boring stuff, some more details:
1. Miners don't have to include your transaction, so if you didn't include a high enough tx fee, or they simply don't feel like it, your tx won't be included in the next solved block.
2. Difficulty is not adjusted continuously, but only once every 2016 blocks. If enough miners go offline at once, the difficulty doesn't immediately go down. see my previous post.

TL:DR: if half the hashpower goes offline, it would take ~20, instead of ~10 minutes, to solve a block.
At that rate, the next difficulty adjustment will happen in (20 * 2016) = 40320 minutes, or 672 hours, or 28 days.
It's unlikely that half of the miners will go offline tho, but, if everyone is mining at the edge of profitability, it's possible that *more* than half would. Unlikely, but possible.
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Re: Halving = Less Miners = Slower Transactions
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 09/07/2016, 16:41:58 UTC
Bottom line is halving is not going to be good news, just watch how the transactions slow down folks
Slow transactions = scares people away
So stupid - it hurts.  Before halving, we have 6MB of transactions every hour.  After halving, we have 6 MB of transactions every hour.  

Where is the slowing?

Could you be more stupid?
ELY5:
The transactions are only confirmed when a block is solved.
At current difficulty, with two miners, the transactions will never get confirmed.
Because a block will never be solved.
Because, with just two miners hashing, it would take many years to solve a block.
You ignorant cunt Smiley
"at current difficulty" - no.  nobody said that.  Difficulty is dynamic.  It goes down too.


You are confused totally.  Such a moron.  
When miners go offline, hashrate goes down, blocks will take longer to solve, and transactions take longer to confirm. This will be compensated for at the next difficulty adjustment, which will happen after 2016 blocks are solved. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty
You're angry, my special friend. People are dumping hard & you're gonna get margin called.
I get it, I'd be shitting myself too if I went long.
Cheer up, your money isn't lost. It merely moved to smarter hands. Bitch Smiley
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Re: Halving = Less Miners = Slower Transactions
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 09/07/2016, 16:11:11 UTC
Just tell me this: If miners get less reward, does the transaction fees decrease?
No. Miners are free to charge you whatever they wish. Since they get only 1/2 the coins (12.5 BTC) for solving a block, they may wish to make up for that in fees. Or not.
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Also, with less miners, will transaction time elongate or with half the total bitcoins, will the transaction time decrease? Along with halving, are cold wallets with no balance about to be removed?
When miners go offline, hashrate goes down, blocks will take longer to solve, and transactions take longer to confirm. This will be compensated for at the next difficulty adjustment, which will happen after 2016 blocks are solved. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty

If you want the boring stuff, some more details:
1. Miners don't have to include your transaction, so if you didn't include a high enough tx fee, or they simply don't feel like it, your tx won't be included in the next solved block.
2. Difficulty is not adjusted continuously, but only once every 2016 blocks. If enough miners go offline at once, the difficulty doesn't immediately go down. see my previous post.
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Re: Halving = Less Miners = Slower Transactions
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 09/07/2016, 16:01:39 UTC
Bottom line is halving is not going to be good news, just watch how the transactions slow down folks
Slow transactions = scares people away
So stupid - it hurts.  Before halving, we have 6MB of transactions every hour.  After halving, we have 6 MB of transactions every hour.  

Where is the slowing?

Could you be more stupid?
ELY5:
The transactions are only confirmed when a block is solved.
At current difficulty, with two miners, the transactions will never get confirmed.
Because a block will never be solved.
Because, with just two miners hashing, it would take many years to solve a block.
You ignorant cunt Smiley
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 09/07/2016, 15:22:17 UTC
Where are the wild moves that people said that would happen in the halving time?
Two hours until the halving and still nothing.

Bitcoin all grown up; is done wilding.
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Re: Halving = Less Miners = Slower Transactions
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 09/07/2016, 15:04:44 UTC
A question to the older members here would be to ask if there was this much worry and fud in the last halving? Surely back then miners where in the same situation that if we never got a price rise then it would become unprofitable to continue to mine and miners would drop out left right and centre. yet we are at another block halving and miners are still doing their thing.

Back then, we still had shitloads of hobby miners with GPUs. Hobby as in "I do this because I think it's fun."
Right around halving time the first ASICs came out. A quantum leap in hashrate, obsoleting all the FPGAs/GPUs.
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Re: Halving = Less Miners = Slower Transactions
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 09/07/2016, 14:52:43 UTC
If there are less miners, difficulty decreases and thus increasing profit. It's an endless cycle.

Decrease at next diff. adjutment, not right away.
But there's no reason for miners to shut down right away. Mining at a loss might be worth it to drive the competition out of business. It's a Mexican standoff.

Why would miners invest so much into electricity for half the reward? I see this ending badly
Clearly another moron.  Even if we only have two miners, blocks go every 10 minutes.

Clearly another moron. At current difficulty, a block would *never* be solved with just 2 miners. Blocks are solved in *about* ten minutes at current difficulty and current hashrate.  Cut the hashrate, and the time to solve a block increases proportionally. Cut it enough, and you'll never get to the next difficulty adjustment.
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Re: Bitcoin Block Reward Halving Countdown - Excited?
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 09/07/2016, 13:39:01 UTC
As I said many times, I don't care at all about fiat price. If that's high, nice, if that's low, too bad. Now I started to count in bitcoins.

That's a great way to be. Expect nothing, and you'll never be disappointed.

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I'm excited because tomorrow will be lived a piece of history Smiley !

Exactly! There'll be writing about us in finance magazines for years to come! http://fortune.com/2015/03/11/beanie-babies-failure-lessons/
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Re: Successful Bitcoin Business List.
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Bitcoinstalker.com
on 09/07/2016, 12:58:32 UTC
Coinbase? Don't know if they are making money, but at least they are expanding.
A lot of folks don't like them, but I have to utilize them to buy some coins if I needed to.

Coinbase just cut service to Germany and in the process of cutting Canada (because another Bitcoin business, Vagoogo or something, their payment processor, is folding).
But per OP, "DNMs, gambling, and exchanges don't count."

i am also thinking about to start a business here in my area. and to do dealing in bicoin and in local currency also. actually our people have very little knowledge about bitocin therefore only bitcoin dealing in the start will not be profitable. but i am confused that what kind of business will be more profitable in bitcoin.

Thus far, the following proved to be relatively successful.
1. Ponzi schemes:                                Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Gambling > Investor-based games
2. Gambling:                                        Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Gambling
3. Usury and theft:                               Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Lending
4. Selling dreams to suckers:                  Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Securities
5. Selling carded goods/pirated software: Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Goods > Digital goods
6. Farming/selling Bitcointalk accounts:    Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Auctions