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Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread
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Bitkoinzz
on 04/01/2015, 21:48:21 UTC
     10% discount has been offered to Second Hand S4, 0.3465$/Gh and shipping out within a week after full payment Smiley
This is a good deal people. You cannot buy this much hashing power for this price anywhere in the world. Bitmain consistently out prices everyone. These S4's will be good to run for 10 months at least with underclocking later on.  We need 50 more S4's. P.S. Thanks for the rapid PSU replacements. We had several go out right away and Yoshi took care of us fast. GO BITMAIN

No offense, but sounds like fan boy speak.  How do you know they'll be profitable for 10 months? 

Also remember S4s don't work well on all pools.

And they are prone to drive failures because of cheap components.

In other words, you get what you pay for.

M
Ha ha aha nice. I been running Bitmain products for almost a solid year now. The S1's ran for about 10 months before they were not making anything above electric costs. And I pay $.13 a KWH. I guarantee you I will make thousands of dollars in profit from the 9 S4's I am running now. Then I will underclock at the end, and then harvest the power supplies for other gear  when they done... Thousands....
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread
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Bitkoinzz
on 04/01/2015, 19:09:41 UTC
     10% discount has been offered to Second Hand S4, 0.3465$/Gh and shipping out within a week after full payment Smiley
This is a good deal people. You cannot buy this much hashing power for this price anywhere in the world. Bitmain consistently out prices everyone. These S4's will be good to run for 10 months at least with underclocking later on.  We need 50 more S4's. P.S. Thanks for the rapid PSU replacements. We had several go out right away and Yoshi took care of us fast. GO BITMAIN
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread
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Bitkoinzz
on 04/01/2015, 19:03:35 UTC
Hello, I need some help with my S4. Sometimes when is mining the hash power shown in the LCD, for example 1989.3 GH/S, it´s not the same that the hash power in the pool. In fact the pool seem like it´s dead. So I have to turn off and turn on the S4 and problem solved but its very annoying do this 3 or 4 time per day.
What can I do? What is wrong with the S4? I have 2 weeks with it
P.S. what pool are you using? Some work better than others with the S4.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread
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Bitkoinzz
on 04/01/2015, 19:02:46 UTC
I have been speaking to Yoshi about S4 issues but wanted to get an opinion here since I imagine he is not working on weekends.

One of my units is being shipped back because something burnt. It also had an issue with Fan#2 which is what I posted about earlier.

Looking at my second unit I noticed that Fan#2 in this unit only runs at 240 RPM and the others are about 4000. What caught my attention is other screenshots showing fan speeds and Asic chain temps that are close.

My temps are

chain 1 60
chain 2 48
chain 3 60
chain 4 51

Both of my units have been like this since they arrived. It seems odd to me that both units behave the same way. Anyone else having similar issues? Is there a Fan#2 issue?


BTW - temp in the hashing room is 22C.
Those temps are in line. I wouldn't worry about the the fan speed unless the unit is showing extra hot temps on the LED screen. 68C is about as hot as you want to see. Anything more than that and they may slow down a bit or some chips might shut off and turn to X's. But remember, if you get X's on the chips just reboot the S4 and the chips will all be back to O's. I have never lost a chip permanently on S1's , S3's or S4's.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread
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Bitkoinzz
on 04/01/2015, 18:58:28 UTC
Hello, I need some help with my S4. Sometimes when is mining the hash power shown in the LCD, for example 1989.3 GH/S, it´s not the same that the hash power in the pool. In fact the pool seem like it´s dead. So I have to turn off and turn on the S4 and problem solved but its very annoying do this 3 or 4 time per day.
What can I do? What is wrong with the S4? I have 2 weeks with it
Hello. You need to set the minimum difficulty ON YOUR POOL ACCOUNT to 2048. Also you should update your firmware on S4 to the newest version. https://bitmaintech.com/support.htm?pid=00720140930114518599JXGHWWD80660.  The file is initramfs.bin.SD-20141016.tar.gz.   Log into your S4 and go to "System" then " upgrade" then flash the downloaded newest firmware image onto your S4. . Doing these two things will increase your pool hashing to almost 100% of what it shows on the LED screen on the S4.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
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Bitkoinzz
on 21/12/2014, 19:09:48 UTC
How many people have upgraded the S4 firmware to: initramfs.bin.SD-20141016.tar.gz from the bitmain website?

I only ask because mine is still running on the factory firmware no problem with difficulty manually set, so I'm kind of wondering if I should bother with the upgrade.
I upgraded all of my S4's to this firmware and gained at least 5% hashing speed on the pool. I also set difficulty to 2048. 225 Mhz 0725 volts . They are all hashing at least 2200 and are stable meaning I don't have to hard reboot them every day for crashed chips or reduced hashing speeds.
After I reset to factory setting and set difficulty to 2048. 225 Mhz 0725 volts, I too am hashing at least 2200. It's very stable so far for past 24 hours. Thanks for the info.  Smiley
You bet brother. We are setting up 240 volts next week and I am going to overclock and see what happens.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
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Bitkoinzz
on 18/12/2014, 21:55:40 UTC
Yes, 110-240v

can antminer s4 use 220v. electricity?
Thanks for all your help Bitmain Warranty. We are setting up a warehouse all on 240 volts. Should be up and running next week. I will report back with power consumption.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
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Bitkoinzz
on 18/12/2014, 01:13:10 UTC
Come on guys...

Go easy on him.  He's simply making an offer.  May be a bad offer but it's still an offer.

I actually believe many of us who have bought an S4 will wish we had known an S5 was around the corner THAT CLOSE!

So, those of you who also have an S4, please go easy on him.

In my opinion, we [who have bought S4's] were left out of the loop for someone else's profit.  Yes, we will still ROI.  However, it will take longer to ROI on the S4 than it will on the S5.
You have details on the S5?
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
by
Bitkoinzz
on 16/12/2014, 23:48:09 UTC
How many people have upgraded the S4 firmware to: initramfs.bin.SD-20141016.tar.gz from the bitmain website?

I only ask because mine is still running on the factory firmware no problem with difficulty manually set, so I'm kind of wondering if I should bother with the upgrade.
I upgraded all of my S4's to this firmware and gained at least 5% hashing speed on the pool. I also set difficulty to 2048. 225 Mhz 0725 volts . They are all hashing at least 2200 and are stable meaning I don't have to hard reboot them every day for crashed chips or reduced hashing speeds.
Maybe I need to upgrade my firmware. When S4 hashing rate drop to below 1500 Gh/s, my pool with Ghash.IO goes to zero. I had difficulty set to 2048 manually.


Looks like your hashrate dropped to 0 over 14 hours ago.  It just took that long for your average to get below 1500.  I upgraded all of my S4's to the latest firmware (Oct 16) and have not had any issues, except I needed to reboot another time after the firmware upgrade, on all of them.  All of them ran poorly after the automatic reboot from the firmware upgrade.  But I always set the difficulty manually when the option is offered by the pool.
 
Do you know how high the board temps are getting?  The UI shows 50-51 now, but it hasn't been hashing.  I've seen this (hashrate drop to 0) happen with temps in the 60's.  They should be able to handle 60, but I'm just passing along what I have seen.  I have also seen this happen when trying to overclock with stock PSU.  (I can see in your screenshot that you are not overclocking, but wanted to mention it anyway.)

You should setup some kind of alerting.  You don't want to lose half a days worth of mining on an S4.  There are a couple home grown monitoring programs out there.  They require a bit of work to set them up.  I see that Justin Ramos shares open-source monitoring software.  I don't know him.  I have tried his P2Pool code, which is good and has extra reporting.  I intend to try his monitoring solution.  I think you have to install 3 software packages.  The API client, the manager, and the monitor.  https://github.com/jramos

I also ran across this site, if you want fast and easy.  http://www.awesomeminer.com/   There is a one time charge for the version that send notifications.  There is a free version to try.  I don't know this site and am not endorsing them, but their product looks good.  If you search for "bitcoin mining monitoring", you will find others.


I have to manually set difficulty to 2048. Otherwise, it doesn't hash more than 180 Gh/s on the pool while S4 shows it's hashing 2000+ Gh/s. I check my S4 B2 which I received in early December which has latest firmware. I tried to set to 225 Mhz 0725 volts then it went to zero. But before, it never went to zero. When hashing speed drop below 1500 on the S4, pool goes to zero. When I set pool difficulty to anything less than 2048, it never hash more than the difficulty setting. S4 temperature never goes up above 52 since it's winter here and I have all the windows open.

I'm trying different settings to see which would work the best and optimized mining.

I didn't know pool went to zero since S4 was running. With other miners' noises, I tend to be not hear the noises as much. I guessed I have adapted to the miner noises.

Anyhow, thanks for your insight.
I hate to say it but there are only a few pools that you will get full speed hashing from I can find. I tried several and right now I have all S4's showing 2200 + at the pool. i can get them to 2300+ but the chips sometime crash. It is that difficulty rate issue. Some pools you can set the minimum and it works and others you just can't get them to full speed. I am not here to promote a pool but the one I use  starts with an S.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
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Bitkoinzz
on 16/12/2014, 23:42:15 UTC
How many people have upgraded the S4 firmware to: initramfs.bin.SD-20141016.tar.gz from the bitmain website?

I only ask because mine is still running on the factory firmware no problem with difficulty manually set, so I'm kind of wondering if I should bother with the upgrade.
I upgraded all of my S4's to this firmware and gained at least 5% hashing speed on the pool. I also set difficulty to 2048. 225 Mhz 0725 volts . They are all hashing at least 2200 and are stable meaning I don't have to hard reboot them every day for crashed chips or reduced hashing speeds.
When I tried 225 Mhz with 0725 volts, it wasn't stable. I went back to factory default setting of 200 Mhz 0725 volts and even with upgrade firmware. Either I'm doing something wrong or your S4 is better than mine.  Huh
Ok the most stable settings I can find are 225/0725/2048 with the newest firmware. One key is the temperature. I am blowing cold air from outside right into the S4's. They are not even warm really. The air coming out the back is cool. Now one thing that can slow down your hashing speeds at the pool, even though the S4 shows normal speeds, is your ROUTER. If the S4's slow down reboot all of them and your router/modem.
Also if you see any crashed chips, or the speeds slow down on the S4 itself, or if it goes offline, or anything just do a hard reboot. Power off/ power up. It works everytime.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
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Bitkoinzz
on 15/12/2014, 21:11:55 UTC
How many people have upgraded the S4 firmware to: initramfs.bin.SD-20141016.tar.gz from the bitmain website?

I only ask because mine is still running on the factory firmware no problem with difficulty manually set, so I'm kind of wondering if I should bother with the upgrade.
I upgraded all of my S4's to this firmware and gained at least 5% hashing speed on the pool. I also set difficulty to 2048. 225 Mhz 0725 volts . They are all hashing at least 2200 and are stable meaning I don't have to hard reboot them every day for crashed chips or reduced hashing speeds.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
by
Bitkoinzz
on 13/12/2014, 22:15:33 UTC
I have a S4 B1 and S4 B2. The S4 B1 is working great but the new B2 that i got in a couple weeks ago worked great for the first few days now I cant get it to hash more than a couple hours. The box would stop hashing but it would stay on, the fans on with a blank (but lit) LCD screen.

I re-seated the SD card and it worked for about 10 hours and started doing the same thing. It works if I turn the power off and turn it back on, but only hashes for a couple hours.

I got a new SD card and flashed the image from the original SD and that worked for a few hours and then it stopped hashing.

I emailed tech support and they sent me an image that I flashed to the new SD card and the same issue.

This is frustrating! I know it works, I just dont understand why it keeps stopping.

Have you tried different pools?

Increase the voltage slightly and/or underclock. Disconnect one or two boards. Try to isolate the problem, whether it's a bad board, cable, controller, PSU etc.
I have one that is doing that sometimes too. You know what I think it is? I think the vibrations from a stack of 6 S4's (this on is in the middle) is slightly shaking the SD card and causing the cgminer to stop.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
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Bitkoinzz
on 13/12/2014, 05:11:47 UTC
Does anyone here run their S4's on 240 volts? What setting do you use on the chip? 0375?

You mean 0735? Probably a bit too high unless you're overclocking heavily. Keep in mind that the PSU is barely sufficient for stock speeds.

I used 0720 with 200 MHz (stock 2 TH/s) and 0725 with 225 MHz (~2.25 TH/s)
No I am talking about 240 volts input. Much more efficient than 120 volts. the chips surely must be undervolted using 240.

Er.. no.. chip voltage is the same regardless of input. You just pull less amps with 220/240. I'm in Singapore and we're using 220/240 and chips v are the same.
Thats exactly what I needed to know. Thanks for the info. We are wiring the server room at 208-240 volts. This is not for massive overclocking, just more efficient power usage= lower costs.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
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Bitkoinzz
on 13/12/2014, 00:27:53 UTC
Does anyone here run their S4's on 240 volts? What setting do you use on the chip? 0375?

You mean 0735? Probably a bit too high unless you're overclocking heavily. Keep in mind that the PSU is barely sufficient for stock speeds.

I used 0720 with 200 MHz (stock 2 TH/s) and 0725 with 225 MHz (~2.25 TH/s)
No I am talking about 240 volts input. Much more efficient than 120 volts. the chips surely must be undervolted using 240.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
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Bitkoinzz
on 13/12/2014, 00:00:08 UTC
Does anyone here run their S4's on 240 volts? What setting do you use on the chip? 0375?
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
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Bitkoinzz
on 12/12/2014, 23:36:23 UTC
Mining isn't my thing but judging by the stack of S3+ and S4 units that a friend has asked me to sell for him I assumed that the S5 was not too far off...
Most likely your mate wants to sell because profit is not worth the noises after cost of electricity at current BTC price. I'm using my S1s, S3s and S4 as space heaters and make little profit. My flat is so hot that I have to keep my windows open.
Either your electric cost per kwh is high or your pool is not paying enough because I am making profit using S3's and S4's. $.12 a kwh electric and Slush pool. Winning combination.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
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Bitkoinzz
on 12/12/2014, 23:34:07 UTC
Depends on electricity cost.Here S1 are not profitable unless underclocked.
S3 barely profitalble Dont have S4 to say...
Bitmain is offering the top models in high prices lately that will never ROI with this BTC price
So the s5 will not be an exception to this I guess
Currently my equimpent is 50% is Spondoolies 40% Bitmain and 10% KNC
thinking of dumping the KNC soon and get more SP
Nothing Spoondoolies makes or sells will make more BTC per dollar spent than a Bitmain S3 or S4. No way Jose. We are setting up a large mining farm and it will all be Bitmain products.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
by
Bitkoinzz
on 12/12/2014, 03:17:28 UTC
Has anyone tried to jump the power supply in an S4 so it will start up when power is on without having to push the button? So you can reboot a  large batch of them all at once?
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Re: Custom Rigs... Hardware
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Bitkoinzz
on 11/12/2014, 02:33:05 UTC
I just saw this today, and if friedcat is able to produce workable blades, these will be the most efficient miners on the market. 

I would suggest contacting him to find out details like cost/timeline/board size/design, controller requirements, power requirements, etc. 

Pretty nice specs anyway!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888260.msg9794133#msg9794133


Wow thanks SFMiner. That is big news.
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Re: ANTMINER S4 Black Friday Deals 0.409USD/GH/s, FREE International Shipping
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Bitkoinzz
on 11/12/2014, 01:35:32 UTC
Ok so Bitmain has stopped single sales of S4's , only pallets of 16 left. And the current coupons expire on the 15th.  Maybe they are going to start sales of the S5 on Monday? 1Th  $375-400 750PSU needed is my guess. Any takers?

Single B2 sales of S4 available on Bitmain site again. Could they be dumping remaining S4 stock for S5 release since FC announced their new chip today?
Who is FC?