I call "troll". There's not proof that this individual even owns those addresses.

Because other than the obvious evidence you've spent the last hour or so claiming to be the owner and refreshing BTCTalk constantly to reply to various comments about what you should or should not do or should or should not have done, we have absolutely no reason to believe you are the true and rightful owner of the mined coins, or representing the owner of the mined coins.

Even ignoring the Eligius and BTCGuild accusations, for all we know, you are some random person wanting to troll us into thinking you have a claim on the lost coins. We have no reason to believe you have a right to speak for the owner of those two addresses. And frankly, without cryptographic proof, I don't believe you own either address. Nor should anyone else. This seems to be obvious to everyone but yourself at the moment, so I'm recommending you provide proof to add to the veracity of your claims.

If you need help and you want to make sure you're not doing anything risky, it is recommended you address names and locations and even dates when signing, so that others cannot just copy the message and paste it elsewhere attempting to prove to be you at a later date or time. Aside from that, for the purposes of verification, almost any signed message is sufficient as long as includes the claim in question (that you own both addresses). For example here's something you would NOT want to sign:


If you only signed that, then anyone who receives a copy can copy/paste it to any of their friends and attempt to claim to be you. So instead you should include details that link your BTCTalk account to the addresses. You can also specify date so that if someone tries to copy it, it'll look weird.

The following message should be safe to sign and post publicly for anyone to see (you can sign it with either address):

I, owner of the Brucexie account on bitcointalk.org forums, am also the rightful owner of the wallet storing the Bitcoin addresses 17JkL94B2ngJg4QQZuiozDQjnxXB6B7yTc and 1Gu8zxRi8cyENV8CQe52D7QEsiZ7ruT73u. This signature only works before 6/30/2014 and only used for the talking about unpaid issue of eligius of the following 2 address.

If your setting is similar, I assume - and please correct me if I'm wrong - that the situation looks as follows:
a) You have a PC on which your wallet(s) is located
b) You switched your miners on and pointed them to BTCGuild
c) You realized that your software wasn't mining correctly
d) You fixed your software
e) You pointed your hardware to Eligius for the first time

So this would lead to the conclusion that you were not pointing your miners to Eligius before a), right?

And: Is the above summary about correct?

And finally: How long before you started to mine with BTCGuild have you used this PC?

My hunch is your government is just looking for reasons to shut down larger bitcoin mining operations.  I could be wrong though.

Because your refusal to answer most questions weakens your argument.  And producing a message signed by one or both of the addresses in question costs you nothing, and reveals nothing.  It would simply prove that you do in fact have standing to speak as (or on behalf of) the owner of those addresses.

For all we know, you could be just be a troll with no relation at all to this issue, other than you saw an opportunity to mess with us.  (And if so....  :slow clap:  Well played. :slow clap:)



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Yeah.  I was just kind of wondering how much trouble it could cause if hundreds of people internationally started contacting his government demanding action to investigate his bitcoin involvement and possible unethical activities.

I don't know. But I do know their government REALLY hates bitcoin 

And how often do people in your country go to jail just because the get attention from the police, or the government authorities due to some negative incident, even though technically they did nothing wrong?

OK, you got me confused here.
You said that the addresses are yours, then you said they belong to someone else, now you say they work for you.

So what is it?

Can you provide cryptographic proof of this, please?

You still have not answered my one question. How are the conditions in the jails in your country?

So the one that is really behind this is a Chinese ASIC manufacturer, that "test's" their hardware before they start selling it, just to make sure they work.
I am right?

Yes, it does. So the more details you can tell me, the more likely it is that a solution can be found.

So you are saying that you only mined on eligius AFTER the hardware was fixed, and you were finding blocks and should be paid.

Eligius are saying that you mined with faulty hardware, weren't finding blocks, and therefore shouldn't be paid.

More detailed information would be needed to decide who is right, namely the dates, hashrate, shares and blocks found. GigaVPS has posted some numbers which seem to show that things aren't that bad statistically speaking.

Okay, so maybe a very stupid question. I am a small miner with some few TH/s. My miners are controlled through my desktop PC. There I have my wallet, and from my wallet, I transfer the  BTC to a more secure offline wallet.

Does it work similar when you have a 100+ TH/s operation? How does the setting look like?

Oh so now you are on BTCGuild trying to hose us over too?
No wonder the luck over there is PURE CRAP lately....
I hope BTCGuild catches and somehow perma-bans you too.

Can you provide us with cryptographic proof of ownership?

So if I understand this story correctly, you weren't witholding blocks deliberately you had faulty hardware.

BTCGuild (eleuthria) informed you of this after he noticed what was happening and your hardware was then fixed to work properly

The btc that eligius is witholding is from the period before btcguild when your hardware was faulty.

If this is the case I think he's correct, your hardware would never have solved a block and therefore isn't eligble for pooled rewards.

So you're either scamming or your gear isn't working right.  Either way you shouldn't expect to get paid.