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There are few things which appear not quite right here with CrazyLoaf's recent posts:
- "Treating Project as fork"
The name is reused. The website is reused. The database is reused. The accounts are reused. This is clearly not a fork, and the "fork" moniker is only used to try to change the rules to effect a "Game Takeover of Risto-Related Assets". If you want to fork it, fork it. But claiming it's a fork is not enough if you're just taking the existing game over.
- Dishonest representations about the debts
The fact that the game would be better off by doing something does not mean you suddenly get a moral authority to do that thing if it contravenes earlier rules or obligations.
Claiming HannaMaaria should not be owned what's owed to her because she "only sang at Risto's embassy for a few hours" is utterly irrelevant. I believe she sent a lot of her money in the game, but even if it was not true, you don't get to cancel people's claims with an opinion on whether a claim ought to be honoured.
Similarly, you don't get to claim a debt is somehow less valid if the player was not active on BCT or IRC. If activity was even a factor, you should at least consider activity in the game, and not an external place.
Therefore, there are two possible ways to go ahead: fork, or resolve the in game debts:
Forking is what Loaf claims to be doing, despite the facts pointing to not being a fork.
Resolving the debts would be better. You'd do something similar to bankruptcy proceedings, and liquidate Risto's in game holdings *after due process*. That due process would involve notification of debtor and creditors, then (assuming no objection, and I have no reason to believe there would be any) distribution of those holdings to creditors. Any debt is then cancelled. A possibility is to include some percentage of that liquidation to be paid to a game fund.
While Risto owes those people who withdrew, the game also owes risto control of those in game holdings, and blithely taking them is wrong. Such a liquidation procedure would get rid of the debt issue in a formal and morally right way, without having to resort to subterfuge.
About the "risto's debt in a fork": if liquidation is accepted by creditors, that "real life" debt disappears. If it does not happen and a fork happens instead, then the real life debt obviously does not get duplicated.
About the attempt to redirect IRC to another channel where Loaf presumably has op privileges, I have to view this in light of the above attempts and deduce this is an attempt to further portraying the fake-fork idea. ##crypto-kingdom is still around with people in it.
- "Treating Project as fork"
The name is reused. The website is reused. The database is reused. The accounts are reused. This is clearly not a fork, and the "fork" moniker is only used to try to change the rules to effect a "Game Takeover of Risto-Related Assets". If you want to fork it, fork it. But claiming it's a fork is not enough if you're just taking the existing game over.
- Dishonest representations about the debts
The fact that the game would be better off by doing something does not mean you suddenly get a moral authority to do that thing if it contravenes earlier rules or obligations.
Claiming HannaMaaria should not be owned what's owed to her because she "only sang at Risto's embassy for a few hours" is utterly irrelevant. I believe she sent a lot of her money in the game, but even if it was not true, you don't get to cancel people's claims with an opinion on whether a claim ought to be honoured.
Similarly, you don't get to claim a debt is somehow less valid if the player was not active on BCT or IRC. If activity was even a factor, you should at least consider activity in the game, and not an external place.
Therefore, there are two possible ways to go ahead: fork, or resolve the in game debts:
Forking is what Loaf claims to be doing, despite the facts pointing to not being a fork.
Resolving the debts would be better. You'd do something similar to bankruptcy proceedings, and liquidate Risto's in game holdings *after due process*. That due process would involve notification of debtor and creditors, then (assuming no objection, and I have no reason to believe there would be any) distribution of those holdings to creditors. Any debt is then cancelled. A possibility is to include some percentage of that liquidation to be paid to a game fund.
While Risto owes those people who withdrew, the game also owes risto control of those in game holdings, and blithely taking them is wrong. Such a liquidation procedure would get rid of the debt issue in a formal and morally right way, without having to resort to subterfuge.
About the "risto's debt in a fork": if liquidation is accepted by creditors, that "real life" debt disappears. If it does not happen and a fork happens instead, then the real life debt obviously does not get duplicated.
About the attempt to redirect IRC to another channel where Loaf presumably has op privileges, I have to view this in light of the above attempts and deduce this is an attempt to further portraying the fake-fork idea. ##crypto-kingdom is still around with people in it.
It is amusing to see someone trying hard to hoodwink others, but since it seems many people do not understand the difference between a git tree and a PR, I think there is a teachable moment here:
Anyone can have a git tree. It's as easy as cloning an existing one. Git is a decentralized revision control system. You can clone your own off Monero, and do anything you like to it. You can then PR anything. This is what open source is all about: you can modify the source to do anything you like. Open source, however, does not enable you to force others to merge your stuff into their own tree, and that is what is apparent here, despite someone who (I think) understands this very well, but is preying on people's naivety. So this illustrates the power open source software gives all of you. You are free to do anything on your own copy. You are free to choose to merge, or not, whatever you want from what others may have done. Exercise wisdom on what you choose to merge, and you will be standing on the shoulders of giants.
Anyone can have a git tree. It's as easy as cloning an existing one. Git is a decentralized revision control system. You can clone your own off Monero, and do anything you like to it. You can then PR anything. This is what open source is all about: you can modify the source to do anything you like. Open source, however, does not enable you to force others to merge your stuff into their own tree, and that is what is apparent here, despite someone who (I think) understands this very well, but is preying on people's naivety. So this illustrates the power open source software gives all of you. You are free to do anything on your own copy. You are free to choose to merge, or not, whatever you want from what others may have done. Exercise wisdom on what you choose to merge, and you will be standing on the shoulders of giants.
Name me one charity that would be a good idea to support officially with monero and I'll do my best to say why it's a bad idea.
http://softwarefreedom.org/
Important reminder to all miners: you still have about 4 days left to update your daemons to 0.11.0.0 before the fork. Updating is mandatory, 0.10.3.1 will be forked off the network at block 1400000.
I have missed my bus today so I won't have access to my laptop until tommorow.
Very professional
At least he pays out the withdrawals, which is a whole lot more than can be said about the previous guy
I have contacted PJ to ask whether or not he'll be able to create the pathway for automatic deposits/withdrawals of the token, his answer was affirmitive.
If that's okay, I believe we should proceed with the Crypto Kingdom Markka tokenization?
If that's okay, I believe we should proceed with the Crypto Kingdom Markka tokenization?
Just need SirJacket or Mooo to chime in to make it official. Obviously, it's a yes from me.
I'm OK with this. Not super confident for an adequate implementation, but let's see.
Hello,
is this Monero/Aeon Wallet generator safe to use?
https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/monero-wallet-generator/
I want to move my Aeon to an offline wallet.
is this Monero/Aeon Wallet generator safe to use?
https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/monero-wallet-generator/
I want to move my Aeon to an offline wallet.
Use the newest version:)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6dr7q5/tool_modded_moneromooos_offline_wallet_generator/
Also make sure you use it offline for full security
Wait, what ? This is NOT the newest version, it's a fork made by someone else (judging by who did it, it's probably OK, but certainly definitely not mine). Check the URL (and signatures) before posting links.
Re: rpietila's Crypto Kingdom game is a scam, heavily in debt. Do not deposit funds.
about 10,000 XMR still blocked=stolen in the game where my access has been taken away
So you can't get blockchain payment for your in-game depository shares. Several people can relate to this sad state of affairs, I assure you. I note with interest you characterize this as "stolen".
If you think I am just talking, you may be wrong. I mentioned something about abrupt ending for those who live in countries where Police does not uphold justice, and that includes you.
Most unwise.
As amusing as it is to see you raging in such apoplectic puerility, I will not succumb to the temptation of sending barbs in hopes of eliciting further embarrassment. You know where to find me if you find yourself again in a state where you can have a cogent conversation.
For the benefit of readers, I will rehash some well known facts below, interspersed with my replies. This will also be crossposted to the new uncensored CK thread.
The two are compatible (assuming you did not withdraw anything, I do not know). You have scammed B1, not monerito, but I'll choose to assume this is just loose talk, and that you are claiming you did not withraw bitcoin instead: you have created, and used, in game items (B1 tokens) that were supposed to be only created from a matching deposit. Given you were running the bitcoin wallet, nobody saw whether you, or not, in fact, deposited the bitcoin to back these. Whether you did or not, the failure (and subsequent mockery) to honour the debt you created is what we're crossed about. Whether you withdrew from the game or not is irrelevant, since it is only one of the ways in which you could have created debt to others.
According to the rules of the game, locking you out of your accounts might have been against the rules, I'm not sure as I have not checked thoroughly. However, I remember that crichton did convene a meeting as per the rules, with the required amount of notice, and the game was put under the supervision of what you call the "darkness", but I more prosaically call a caretaker group. You might or might not remember, but crichton was temporarily in control of a lot of M, due to your mucking around with character IDs to swap 1 and 36 (IIRC) and thus breaking changelog usefulness. During that time, crichton had most of the M.
That said, this is not super relevant either. I decided kicked you out once it became clear you were not about to stop your descent into idiocy, and that locking you out was both (1) leverage to get you to refund those you stiffed and (2) a defense against the wanton vandalism you had inficted the game so far.
The whole timeline of these events is suspect, given that you started withholding bitcoin and mocking us before this supposed theft (plus the fire, and the flood) happen. My current opinion is that it is all bullshit and/or self manufactured. I choose to disbelieve that you would somehow decide to put all or most your bitcoin in paper wallets, which you'd keep stored in a public area near a naked flame.
In game debts are wholly in game, agreed. If you have in game debts, then they stay there.
In case you said this because you were attempting to equate your debts to in game debts, then I am afraid they are emphatically not in game debts. The bitcoin depository was an out of game wallet, as any reasonable person would find. And your subsequent agreement to exchange B1 for bitcoin was clearly an in game to out of game action, as bitcoin wallets are an out of game thing, as, again, any reasonable person would find.
As I said to you several times before, if you find a buyer for any/some/all/part of your in game holdings, then I will facilitate the transaction, under the condition that the buyer's bitcoin goes directly to creditors, or an otherwise trusted party for distribution to creditors.
It is still my hope that this can be solved, and to get you back in the game and making it better. It has recently seemed that this path was closed, due to you starting another game, but I am glad to see you may be willing to make things right. As Karl Hungus, I believe there is potential still, especially if the ability to access player's funds/items is curtailed (since your reputation may take time to heal, even after paying your debts back). Moreover, I do agree that you did pay for the game to develop (though not all: a large part was paid by everyone, through the sale of in-game consols, though I do not know where most of the dev money came from). However, paying for this does not entitle you to then withhold owed money from others. You seem to assume evil intent from us, but really we're just miffed by your own evil intent when you decided to withhold withdrawals (before the alleged fire, flood, and theft), and mocked us over it.
Anyway, my suggestion is still the same: pay the roughly 600 or 700 bitcoin or so that are due (or strike deals with individual creditors as appropriate). If this is done, I will give your accounts back (pending agreement from the other two members of the "darkness" caretaker group).
* some people claim that I stole their funds, whereas the fact is I have never withdrawn a single monerito from any CK game. In this spring, all of my 50,000 XMR (~USD 2 million) were spent from the game by gifts, M3 sales (against Markka) and outright theft. In addition, I always paid PJ salaries from my pocket, and also redeemed him to work forever without no payment, all from my pocket;
The two are compatible (assuming you did not withdraw anything, I do not know). You have scammed B1, not monerito, but I'll choose to assume this is just loose talk, and that you are claiming you did not withraw bitcoin instead: you have created, and used, in game items (B1 tokens) that were supposed to be only created from a matching deposit. Given you were running the bitcoin wallet, nobody saw whether you, or not, in fact, deposited the bitcoin to back these. Whether you did or not, the failure (and subsequent mockery) to honour the debt you created is what we're crossed about. Whether you withdrew from the game or not is irrelevant, since it is only one of the ways in which you could have created debt to others.
* darkness rebellion was not fair; I always possessed the majority of all Markka, so the ouster from my GM position was not according to rules, hence fully illegal;
According to the rules of the game, locking you out of your accounts might have been against the rules, I'm not sure as I have not checked thoroughly. However, I remember that crichton did convene a meeting as per the rules, with the required amount of notice, and the game was put under the supervision of what you call the "darkness", but I more prosaically call a caretaker group. You might or might not remember, but crichton was temporarily in control of a lot of M, due to your mucking around with character IDs to swap 1 and 36 (IIRC) and thus breaking changelog usefulness. During that time, crichton had most of the M.
That said, this is not super relevant either. I decided kicked you out once it became clear you were not about to stop your descent into idiocy, and that locking you out was both (1) leverage to get you to refund those you stiffed and (2) a defense against the wanton vandalism you had inficted the game so far.
* Embassy theft needs some time to resolve, I will surely get back at least the items, and the stupidguys go to jail. I am sorry to inform that the BTC is unable to recover as it was transferred upon the theft and hidden;
The whole timeline of these events is suspect, given that you started withholding bitcoin and mocking us before this supposed theft (plus the fire, and the flood) happen. My current opinion is that it is all bullshit and/or self manufactured. I choose to disbelieve that you would somehow decide to put all or most your bitcoin in paper wallets, which you'd keep stored in a public area near a naked flame.
* I acknowledge some of the debts that people hold against me as valid, but please understand that the game is a game and cannot collect from out-of-game assets;
In game debts are wholly in game, agreed. If you have in game debts, then they stay there.
In case you said this because you were attempting to equate your debts to in game debts, then I am afraid they are emphatically not in game debts. The bitcoin depository was an out of game wallet, as any reasonable person would find. And your subsequent agreement to exchange B1 for bitcoin was clearly an in game to out of game action, as bitcoin wallets are an out of game thing, as, again, any reasonable person would find.
* I can liquidate all my Markka position (rightfully more than 2 trillion) to pay the debts as well, but preferably to those who actually were hurt, and did not comply with the rebellion;
I AM OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS; ENOUGH OF THIS MADNESS.
I AM OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS; ENOUGH OF THIS MADNESS.
As I said to you several times before, if you find a buyer for any/some/all/part of your in game holdings, then I will facilitate the transaction, under the condition that the buyer's bitcoin goes directly to creditors, or an otherwise trusted party for distribution to creditors.
It is still my hope that this can be solved, and to get you back in the game and making it better. It has recently seemed that this path was closed, due to you starting another game, but I am glad to see you may be willing to make things right. As Karl Hungus, I believe there is potential still, especially if the ability to access player's funds/items is curtailed (since your reputation may take time to heal, even after paying your debts back). Moreover, I do agree that you did pay for the game to develop (though not all: a large part was paid by everyone, through the sale of in-game consols, though I do not know where most of the dev money came from). However, paying for this does not entitle you to then withhold owed money from others. You seem to assume evil intent from us, but really we're just miffed by your own evil intent when you decided to withhold withdrawals (before the alleged fire, flood, and theft), and mocked us over it.
Anyway, my suggestion is still the same: pay the roughly 600 or 700 bitcoin or so that are due (or strike deals with individual creditors as appropriate). If this is done, I will give your accounts back (pending agreement from the other two members of the "darkness" caretaker group).
For the benefit of readers, I will rehash some well known facts below, interspersed with my replies. This will also be crossposted to the new uncensored CK thread.
The two are compatible (assuming you did not withdraw anything, I do not know). You have scammed B1, not monerito, but I'll choose to assume this is just loose talk, and that you are claiming you did not withraw bitcoin instead: you have created, and used, in game items (B1 tokens) that were supposed to be only created from a matching deposit. Given you were running the bitcoin wallet, nobody saw whether you, or not, in fact, deposited the bitcoin to back these. Whether you did or not, the failure (and subsequent mockery) to honour the debt you created is what we're crossed about. Whether you withdrew from the game or not is irrelevant, since it is only one of the ways in which you could have created debt to others.
According to the rules of the game, locking you out of your accounts might have been against the rules, I'm not sure as I have not checked thoroughly. However, I remember that crichton did convene a meeting as per the rules, with the required amount of notice, and the game was put under the supervision of what you call the "darkness", but I more prosaically call a caretaker group. You might or might not remember, but crichton was temporarily in control of a lot of M, due to your mucking around with character IDs to swap 1 and 36 (IIRC) and thus breaking changelog usefulness. During that time, crichton had most of the M.
That said, this is not super relevant either. I decided kicked you out once it became clear you were not about to stop your descent into idiocy, and that locking you out was both (1) leverage to get you to refund those you stiffed and (2) a defense against the wanton vandalism you had inficted the game so far.
The whole timeline of these events is suspect, given that you started withholding bitcoin and mocking us before this supposed theft (plus the fire, and the flood) happen. My current opinion is that it is all bullshit and/or self manufactured. I choose to disbelieve that you would somehow decide to put all or most your bitcoin in paper wallets, which you'd keep stored in a public area near a naked flame.
In game debts are wholly in game, agreed. If you have in game debts, then they stay there.
In case you said this because you were attempting to equate your debts to in game debts, then I am afraid they are emphatically not in game debts. The bitcoin depository was an out of game wallet, as any reasonable person would find. And your subsequent agreement to exchange B1 for bitcoin was clearly an in game to out of game action, as bitcoin wallets are an out of game thing, as, again, any reasonable person would find.
As I said to you several times before, if you find a buyer for any/some/all/part of your in game holdings, then I will facilitate the transaction, under the condition that the buyer's bitcoin goes directly to creditors, or an otherwise trusted party for distribution to creditors.
It is still my hope that this can be solved, and to get you back in the game and making it better. It has recently seemed that this path was closed, due to you starting another game, but I am glad to see you may be willing to make things right. As Karl Hungus, I believe there is potential still, especially if the ability to access player's funds/items is curtailed (since your reputation may take time to heal, even after paying your debts back). Moreover, I do agree that you did pay for the game to develop (though not all: a large part was paid by everyone, through the sale of in-game consols, though I do not know where most of the dev money came from). However, paying for this does not entitle you to then withhold owed money from others. You seem to assume evil intent from us, but really we're just miffed by your own evil intent when you decided to withhold withdrawals (before the alleged fire, flood, and theft), and mocked us over it.
Anyway, my suggestion is still the same: pay the roughly 600 or 700 bitcoin or so that are due (or strike deals with individual creditors as appropriate). If this is done, I will give your accounts back (pending agreement from the other two members of the "darkness" caretaker group).
* some people claim that I stole their funds, whereas the fact is I have never withdrawn a single monerito from any CK game. In this spring, all of my 50,000 XMR (~USD 2 million) were spent from the game by gifts, M3 sales (against Markka) and outright theft. In addition, I always paid PJ salaries from my pocket, and also redeemed him to work forever without no payment, all from my pocket;
The two are compatible (assuming you did not withdraw anything, I do not know). You have scammed B1, not monerito, but I'll choose to assume this is just loose talk, and that you are claiming you did not withraw bitcoin instead: you have created, and used, in game items (B1 tokens) that were supposed to be only created from a matching deposit. Given you were running the bitcoin wallet, nobody saw whether you, or not, in fact, deposited the bitcoin to back these. Whether you did or not, the failure (and subsequent mockery) to honour the debt you created is what we're crossed about. Whether you withdrew from the game or not is irrelevant, since it is only one of the ways in which you could have created debt to others.
* darkness rebellion was not fair; I always possessed the majority of all Markka, so the ouster from my GM position was not according to rules, hence fully illegal;
According to the rules of the game, locking you out of your accounts might have been against the rules, I'm not sure as I have not checked thoroughly. However, I remember that crichton did convene a meeting as per the rules, with the required amount of notice, and the game was put under the supervision of what you call the "darkness", but I more prosaically call a caretaker group. You might or might not remember, but crichton was temporarily in control of a lot of M, due to your mucking around with character IDs to swap 1 and 36 (IIRC) and thus breaking changelog usefulness. During that time, crichton had most of the M.
That said, this is not super relevant either. I decided kicked you out once it became clear you were not about to stop your descent into idiocy, and that locking you out was both (1) leverage to get you to refund those you stiffed and (2) a defense against the wanton vandalism you had inficted the game so far.
* Embassy theft needs some time to resolve, I will surely get back at least the items, and the stupidguys go to jail. I am sorry to inform that the BTC is unable to recover as it was transferred upon the theft and hidden;
The whole timeline of these events is suspect, given that you started withholding bitcoin and mocking us before this supposed theft (plus the fire, and the flood) happen. My current opinion is that it is all bullshit and/or self manufactured. I choose to disbelieve that you would somehow decide to put all or most your bitcoin in paper wallets, which you'd keep stored in a public area near a naked flame.
* I acknowledge some of the debts that people hold against me as valid, but please understand that the game is a game and cannot collect from out-of-game assets;
In game debts are wholly in game, agreed. If you have in game debts, then they stay there.
In case you said this because you were attempting to equate your debts to in game debts, then I am afraid they are emphatically not in game debts. The bitcoin depository was an out of game wallet, as any reasonable person would find. And your subsequent agreement to exchange B1 for bitcoin was clearly an in game to out of game action, as bitcoin wallets are an out of game thing, as, again, any reasonable person would find.
* I can liquidate all my Markka position (rightfully more than 2 trillion) to pay the debts as well, but preferably to those who actually were hurt, and did not comply with the rebellion;
I AM OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS; ENOUGH OF THIS MADNESS.
I AM OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS; ENOUGH OF THIS MADNESS.
As I said to you several times before, if you find a buyer for any/some/all/part of your in game holdings, then I will facilitate the transaction, under the condition that the buyer's bitcoin goes directly to creditors, or an otherwise trusted party for distribution to creditors.
It is still my hope that this can be solved, and to get you back in the game and making it better. It has recently seemed that this path was closed, due to you starting another game, but I am glad to see you may be willing to make things right. As Karl Hungus, I believe there is potential still, especially if the ability to access player's funds/items is curtailed (since your reputation may take time to heal, even after paying your debts back). Moreover, I do agree that you did pay for the game to develop (though not all: a large part was paid by everyone, through the sale of in-game consols, though I do not know where most of the dev money came from). However, paying for this does not entitle you to then withhold owed money from others. You seem to assume evil intent from us, but really we're just miffed by your own evil intent when you decided to withhold withdrawals (before the alleged fire, flood, and theft), and mocked us over it.
Anyway, my suggestion is still the same: pay the roughly 600 or 700 bitcoin or so that are due (or strike deals with individual creditors as appropriate). If this is done, I will give your accounts back (pending agreement from the other two members of the "darkness" caretaker group).
edit: when I try 'sweep 64 26' command I get error 'You don't have permission to execute this command' - can an admin sweep Hokusai into OZ?
Done.
Should a Catholic funerary rite be wanted for Sir Hokusai, this will be arranged.
Regardless, the Church gives its blessing to the Earl of Ghibli and thanks for all the good he has done before leaving us.
Can an admin create 10K units for Phoenix Trust and transfer to Gringotts[1963] account in preparation for the initial dutch auction?
Done, the new item is S-PT.
For the record, for those who haven't yet found the uncensored thread.
Does that mean "people have actually had the gall to expect you wouldn't run with the bitcoin" ?
Again, as I said before, you are free to give an argument as to why that is the case. Again, as I said before, if you find someone willing to buy some of your in game assets, this could be arranged (with the money going to your creditors directly).
It seems self evident that liabilities cannot be abandoned without agreement from your creditors.
It is most unfortunate that you chose to destroy what has been accomplished so far. However, it is now becoming more and more apparent that you may not have what it takes to build something like this, and that the lure of 700 bitcoin was too much for you. Still, the door will stay open to you to return to the flock, upon repayment of your debts.
Seriously, why the theft, the lies, the mockery, the abject self sabotage ? Do you wish to accomplish nothing with your life, content with wallowing in whatever booze and drugs you can get your hands on until death finally takes you ? Only you can choose to break this cycle of decay, but it takes will, and honesty, which you had, I think.
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§2. Light has not been able to gather their forces, rather has succumbed to the lure of withdrawals and general lethargy;
Does that mean "people have actually had the gall to expect you wouldn't run with the bitcoin" ?
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§4. The blockade of accounts has made it impossible to "pay the debts" since both the ledger and the means to pay have been corrupted and/or rendered unusable;
Again, as I said before, you are free to give an argument as to why that is the case. Again, as I said before, if you find someone willing to buy some of your in game assets, this could be arranged (with the money going to your creditors directly).
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§5. The community has been torn apart in a way that resembles permanent division;
Again, as I said before, I wish it to not be permanent. Again, as I said before, I wish you would cease and desist in your destructive decision and refund your creditors, upon which you would get full access back. It seems like common sense, and yet you rebel at every single step. Until then, the community is split, you on one side, and everyone else on the other.Quote
§103. All assets and liabilities (except M3) of the (blockaded) Light forces will be abandoned in CK:Ultima and resurrected in CK:Universe; M3 will be withdrawn directly from Saddam's treasury (contingent that the treasury is still in Light);
It seems self evident that liabilities cannot be abandoned without agreement from your creditors.
It is most unfortunate that you chose to destroy what has been accomplished so far. However, it is now becoming more and more apparent that you may not have what it takes to build something like this, and that the lure of 700 bitcoin was too much for you. Still, the door will stay open to you to return to the flock, upon repayment of your debts.
Seriously, why the theft, the lies, the mockery, the abject self sabotage ? Do you wish to accomplish nothing with your life, content with wallowing in whatever booze and drugs you can get your hands on until death finally takes you ? Only you can choose to break this cycle of decay, but it takes will, and honesty, which you had, I think.
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§2. Light has not been able to gather their forces, rather has succumbed to the lure of withdrawals and general lethargy;
Does that mean "people have actually had the gall to expect you wouldn't run with the bitcoin" ?
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§4. The blockade of accounts has made it impossible to "pay the debts" since both the ledger and the means to pay have been corrupted and/or rendered unusable;
Again, as I said before, you are free to give an argument as to why that is the case. Again, as I said before, if you find someone willing to buy some of your in game assets, this could be arranged (with the money going to your creditors directly).
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§5. The community has been torn apart in a way that resembles permanent division;
Again, as I said before, I wish it to not be permanent. Again, as I said before, I wish you would cease and desist in your destructive decision and refund your creditors, upon which you would get full access back. It seems like common sense, and yet you rebel at every single step. Until then, the community is split, you on one side, and everyone else on the other.Quote
§103. All assets and liabilities (except M3) of the (blockaded) Light forces will be abandoned in CK:Ultima and resurrected in CK:Universe; M3 will be withdrawn directly from Saddam's treasury (contingent that the treasury is still in Light);
It seems self evident that liabilities cannot be abandoned without agreement from your creditors.
It is most unfortunate that you chose to destroy what has been accomplished so far. However, it is now becoming more and more apparent that you may not have what it takes to build something like this, and that the lure of 700 bitcoin was too much for you. Still, the door will stay open to you to return to the flock, upon repayment of your debts.
Seriously, why the theft, the lies, the mockery, the abject self sabotage ? Do you wish to accomplish nothing with your life, content with wallowing in whatever booze and drugs you can get your hands on until death finally takes you ? Only you can choose to break this cycle of decay, but it takes will, and honesty, which you had, I think.
The buysell and sellbuy commands are to be used. The > chaining was buggy, and I believe it is disabled these days.
I never used those commands so can't comment on exact use, but trying it out in an otherwise empty market should help see how it behaves.
I never used those commands so can't comment on exact use, but trying it out in an otherwise empty market should help see how it behaves.
Please don't forget to point to the entries on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zR5PszQOQyqnmX7b1CR4XtskcGWAtsHeGbZAWOYgi_o/edit#gid=0 which have been paid to you, so that they can be marked as settled.
I do not believe access is necessary, since any character may view the items of any other, so you can plan your move without access.
However, since I am always trying to make things as easy as they can be given the circumstances, if you can give a good reason why you would need such access, I will consider it. However, any actions done with that access that are deemed to be not in direct help of the planning for the encounter will be reverted. That includes attempts to move any item to other characters.
Of course, full access after repayment of your debts would of course be the preferred and simpler option, which I stress is still open to you.
While I'm here, I'll note that you say you intend to make good on your obligation for people who switch to your new game. Assuming everyone does, you get to pay 100% of your debts back, but lose all the work done in CK. This is an objectively worse outcome than paying your debts and recovering your access and being able to run CK again from there. The only logical explanation seems to me that you are not intending to pay your debts, and are just attempting to drum up support for your new game with that likely fake carrot dangling in front of your creditors.
However, since I am always trying to make things as easy as they can be given the circumstances, if you can give a good reason why you would need such access, I will consider it. However, any actions done with that access that are deemed to be not in direct help of the planning for the encounter will be reverted. That includes attempts to move any item to other characters.
Of course, full access after repayment of your debts would of course be the preferred and simpler option, which I stress is still open to you.
While I'm here, I'll note that you say you intend to make good on your obligation for people who switch to your new game. Assuming everyone does, you get to pay 100% of your debts back, but lose all the work done in CK. This is an objectively worse outcome than paying your debts and recovering your access and being able to run CK again from there. The only logical explanation seems to me that you are not intending to pay your debts, and are just attempting to drum up support for your new game with that likely fake carrot dangling in front of your creditors.