Date    2013-11-17 08:08:27
Transaction ID    8s13gblVYJOJe4mTVB8ZrRLW7WqIFVr9
Type    Withdraw
Debit    1.07437170 BTC
Credit   
Fee    0.00000000 BTC
BTC Transaction   
Status    Processing

And like many people, on that weexclaims site I have

Balance Stuck   0.00000000   Available   0.00000000   Withdrawn   0.00000000

Date    2013-11-17 08:08:27
Transaction ID    8s13gblVYJOJe4mTVB8ZrRLW7WqIFVr9
Type    Withdraw
Debit    1.07437170 BTC
Credit    
Fee    0.00000000 BTC
BTC Transaction    
Status    Processing

You have a point about the potential risks but the number of bitcoins in circulation shouldn't have any bearing on the potential valuation of a company. The total value of an economy isn't just the money in that economy but all of the goods you can buy or trade with it, including financial instruments such as debt. A higher valuation of ASICMINER adds to the total value of the bitcoin economy.

BTCT AM shares are also much easier to convert to/from PT shares than the shares on Bitfunder. You can do it once per month for free for any amount of shares. On Bitfunder you need at least 250 shares before you can convert them to direct shares.

ASICMINER aren't mining with other people's hardware after they've sold it, which is what make's Avalon's actions unethical if this is true.

BTC27.0

From the G.ASICMINER.PT security description

Basically when you own a PT share you own an analog of a direct share that is owned by someone else. The dividends from the direct share are passed-through to the owner of the past-through share.

Cute.

I think there's something to that. It's worth noting that a lot of the positive buzz around Bitcoin started after the crash. There's a lot more serious capital being invested in building infrastructure, which among other things means a deeper pool of competent personnel which brings increased stability. I don't think growth will be breakneck fast but it will be persistent, and that stability and innovation in the space will build on itself, and as more goods are available in BTC there will be less reason to convert back to a fiat currency so business's will hold BTC in order to use it in their supply chain, and the BTC/USD will go up for that reason rather than as a speculative play.

Note that these are PT shares on Bitfunder that are being sold OTC by the owner of the shares for close to their current value on Bitfunder. At a guess he's doing this because the exchange can't support the sale. The upshot is that you may as well buy now on Bitfunder if you can since there is minimal price advantage to buying them OTC (and that there'll be another dividend payment soon). Prices are somewhat higher on btct.co but as you can see there's no way to transfer the shares to this exchange to take advantage of the difference.

It's arguable if these are worth the asking price, but they have the very great advantage of being available right now, as opposed to in a month or two. The only reason that ASICMINER can charge such a high premium for the Block Eruptor products (the blades were priced at 50BTC per unit, which amounts to a hashing power / BTC value of roughly 400MHs for 2BTC. That sale was massively oversubscribed) is because they have no effective competition at this point in time. If Avalon ships on time we will start to see competition late July / early August at which point I suspect we will see a version 2 with similar price point but 2 - 4 times the hashing power in a similar package from AM.

A tweet from Rick Falkvinge.

It's not fantastic.

Just a suggestion that won't get read by anyone, it would help if the Newbie board was at / near the top of the list of forums so that it's immediately obvious for noobs where they have to go.