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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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ChasingTheDream
on 04/06/2014, 05:23:41 UTC
Hi, this is the fix.
I did study a computer that did have stalled working units, I did recoqnise that the percentage you can read in the GUI are really detached from what you find in the log file. What you find in the log file is what results you have from the GPU/WU, that is the true performance. So when a worker are losing sync to a working unit the percentage are increased with the same speed until at reaches 99.99% and stops(in the GUI), thats why you can find out that something is wrong until the timer are reaching 99.99%. So the GUI are not the right place to look for stalled WU's. So if you look deeper in to the computer to the list of processes and particular process FahCore_17.exe, these processes are one for each GPU in your computer. The average CPU usage are around 1-4% and memory size is 200-300 MB ruff numbers.(When the WU are loaded and are folding) When a WU are stalling the CPU activity goes to 0% and stays there until you pause and starts folding again and then the FAHControl.exe are restarting the WU from the last saved file. OK, that's nice you can actually check if the GPU's are folding or not, when the activity are 0% you only need to terminate the stalled FahCore_17.exe and the WU restarts(from last save file). BUT that is hard work to run around and check WU's, so to the end of the story is the automatic solution: Download a software called processlasso and install it. http://bitsum.com/processlasso/
Search and find one process of FahCore_17.exe and right click on it, select menu option "Set watchdog rules for this process", 1: for -CPU, 2: Less than, 3: 1%, 4: 300 sec, 5: terminate the process, 6: Puch button "Create new process watchdog rule". Now the software are terminating the wu that have been inactive for 5 minutes and restarts, this is saved by the software and are restarted every time the computer starts. - YES it works, no more lost hours of stalled WU's Smiley

//Aboy68, by the way - if you change in the motherboard bios settings the PCIe version to version 2, that gives you are more stable system, the timing is not that fast as version 3 and verson 2 have the bandwith we need in foldings, I have this setting on all mother boards, Ver 1 is to slow(I have tryed it)

Outstanding post Aboy68!  I love automated solutions and this will save me the trouble of having to try to write one myself!  I will give this a shot.  A couple of my computers get extremely unstable when some event happens that I have not been able to identify yet so I'm not sure this will work in my case but I'm definitely going to try it.  I will also try the PCI-E 2 settings.

Thanks again!

Update1:  I've just set up the software exactly as you describe on my machines.  Your instructions were very easy to follow.  Again well done!

Update2:  Immediately had an opportunity for processlasso to take some action on the troubled machine and I got a message that I had been using it for 21,000,000 days so it was deactivated.  lol  UGH.  I would have liked to try it before buying it just to see if would help so I may have to pursue a homegrown approach if / when I ever get time to do it.


Display driver recovery happend = one of the folding GPU's did stop = no CPU activity, waiting waiting and there the reset of the process happend.
This is the log file text for this event.

05:09:57:WU04:FS04:0x17:Completed 2550000 out of 5000000 steps (51%)
   REM - Display driver recovery event
   REM - 3min and reset of process.
05:16:20:WARNING:WU04:FS04:FahCore returned: FAILED_2 (1 = 0x1)
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Starting
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Running FahCore: "C:\Program Files (x86)\FAHClient/FAHCoreWrapper.exe" C:/Users/Admin/AppData/Roaming/FAHClient/cores/web.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/AMD64/ATI/R600/Core_17.fah/FahCore_17.exe -dir 04 -suffix 01 -version 704 -lifeline 4756 -checkpoint 15 -gpu 3 -gpu-vendor ati
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Started FahCore on PID 2068
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:Core PID:200
05:16:20:WU04:FS04:FahCore 0x17 started
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:*********************** Log Started 2014-06-04T05:16:21Z ***********************
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Project: 9408 (Run 355, Clone 0, Gen 32)
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Unit: 0x000000290a3b1e5c5342d6762c91b48a
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:CPU: 0x00000000000000000000000000000000
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Machine: 4
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Digital signatures verified
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Folding@home GPU core17
05:16:21:WU04:FS04:0x17:Version 0.0.52
05:16:22:WU04:FS04:0x17:  Found a checkpoint file

AND it running again.

If you want to check if there have been any reset events you only tick the Warnings and errors box and then you look at rows like this:
   - 05:16:20:WARNING:WU04:FS04:FahCore returned: FAILED_2 (1 = 0x1)

//Aboy68

Yeah when I do it mine looks like this....

*********************** Log Started 2014-06-04T04:17:08Z ***********************

There are literally no errors or warnings.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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ChasingTheDream
on 04/06/2014, 05:17:35 UTC
Hi, this is the fix.
I did study a computer that did have stalled working units, I did recoqnise that the percentage you can read in the GUI are really detached from what you find in the log file. What you find in the log file is what results you have from the GPU/WU, that is the true performance. So when a worker are losing sync to a working unit the percentage are increased with the same speed until at reaches 99.99% and stops(in the GUI), thats why you can find out that something is wrong until the timer are reaching 99.99%. So the GUI are not the right place to look for stalled WU's. So if you look deeper in to the computer to the list of processes and particular process FahCore_17.exe, these processes are one for each GPU in your computer. The average CPU usage are around 1-4% and memory size is 200-300 MB ruff numbers.(When the WU are loaded and are folding) When a WU are stalling the CPU activity goes to 0% and stays there until you pause and starts folding again and then the FAHControl.exe are restarting the WU from the last saved file. OK, that's nice you can actually check if the GPU's are folding or not, when the activity are 0% you only need to terminate the stalled FahCore_17.exe and the WU restarts(from last save file). BUT that is hard work to run around and check WU's, so to the end of the story is the automatic solution: Download a software called processlasso and install it. http://bitsum.com/processlasso/
Search and find one process of FahCore_17.exe and right click on it, select menu option "Set watchdog rules for this process", 1: for -CPU, 2: Less than, 3: 1%, 4: 300 sec, 5: terminate the process, 6: Puch button "Create new process watchdog rule". Now the software are terminating the wu that have been inactive for 5 minutes and restarts, this is saved by the software and are restarted every time the computer starts. - YES it works, no more lost hours of stalled WU's Smiley

//Aboy68, by the way - if you change in the motherboard bios settings the PCIe version to version 2, that gives you are more stable system, the timing is not that fast as version 3 and verson 2 have the bandwith we need in foldings, I have this setting on all mother boards, Ver 1 is to slow(I have tryed it)

Outstanding post Aboy68!  I love automated solutions and this will save me the trouble of having to try to write one myself!  I will give this a shot.  A couple of my computers get extremely unstable when some event happens that I have not been able to identify yet so I'm not sure this will work in my case but I'm definitely going to try it.  I will also try the PCI-E 2 settings.

Thanks again!

Update1:  I've just set up the software exactly as you describe on my machines.  Your instructions were very easy to follow.  Again well done!

Update2:  Immediately had an opportunity for processlasso to take some action on the troubled machine and I got a message that I had been using it for 21,000,000 days so it was deactivated.  lol  UGH.  I would have liked to try it before buying it just to see if would help so I may have to pursue a homegrown approach if / when I ever get time to do it.


Strange the trial period are 7 days?

No worries.  It was worth a shot.  I can write something to do something similar if I get some free time.  I'm actually quite concerned with the stability of the machines.  I don't think it would work with how unstable the machines become and I have no idea why.  Nothing in Windows Event Viewer and nothing in the F@H logs.  No errors or warnings.  I'm interacting with the F@H support forum now to see if they have any ideas.

I'll figure it out but I can see it is going to take quite a while.  I suspect my sustainable PPD is going to be about 2 million instead of the 3 million I was doing earlier.  Just no way to keep the machines running to sustain it.  So you better pass me while you can.  lol  Sooner or later I might get the machines running right.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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ChasingTheDream
on 04/06/2014, 02:37:26 UTC
one of coolest startup coins, im sure price will raise. this stuff deserves it.

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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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ChasingTheDream
on 03/06/2014, 23:23:15 UTC
Hi, this is the fix.
I did study a computer that did have stalled working units, I did recoqnise that the percentage you can read in the GUI are really detached from what you find in the log file. What you find in the log file is what results you have from the GPU/WU, that is the true performance. So when a worker are losing sync to a working unit the percentage are increased with the same speed until at reaches 99.99% and stops(in the GUI), thats why you can find out that something is wrong until the timer are reaching 99.99%. So the GUI are not the right place to look for stalled WU's. So if you look deeper in to the computer to the list of processes and particular process FahCore_17.exe, these processes are one for each GPU in your computer. The average CPU usage are around 1-4% and memory size is 200-300 MB ruff numbers.(When the WU are loaded and are folding) When a WU are stalling the CPU activity goes to 0% and stays there until you pause and starts folding again and then the FAHControl.exe are restarting the WU from the last saved file. OK, that's nice you can actually check if the GPU's are folding or not, when the activity are 0% you only need to terminate the stalled FahCore_17.exe and the WU restarts(from last save file). BUT that is hard work to run around and check WU's, so to the end of the story is the automatic solution: Download a software called processlasso and install it. http://bitsum.com/processlasso/
Search and find one process of FahCore_17.exe and right click on it, select menu option "Set watchdog rules for this process", 1: for -CPU, 2: Less than, 3: 1%, 4: 300 sec, 5: terminate the process, 6: Puch button "Create new process watchdog rule". Now the software are terminating the wu that have been inactive for 5 minutes and restarts, this is saved by the software and are restarted every time the computer starts. - YES it works, no more lost hours of stalled WU's Smiley

//Aboy68, by the way - if you change in the motherboard bios settings the PCIe version to version 2, that gives you are more stable system, the timing is not that fast as version 3 and verson 2 have the bandwith we need in foldings, I have this setting on all mother boards, Ver 1 is to slow(I have tryed it)

Outstanding post Aboy68!  I love automated solutions and this will save me the trouble of having to try to write one myself!  I will give this a shot.  A couple of my computers get extremely unstable when some event happens that I have not been able to identify yet so I'm not sure this will work in my case but I'm definitely going to try it.  I will also try the PCI-E 2 settings.

Thanks again!

Update1:  I've just set up the software exactly as you describe on my machines.  Your instructions were very easy to follow.  Again well done!

Update2:  Immediately had an opportunity for processlasso to take some action on the troubled machine and I got a message that I had been using it for 21,000,000 days so it was deactivated.  lol  UGH.  I would have liked to try it before buying it just to see if would help so I may have to pursue a homegrown approach if / when I ever get time to do it.
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ChasingTheDream
on 03/06/2014, 19:00:20 UTC
Calling Aboy68   Cheesy  

Our production is dropping off and I've been having a lot of hardware issues and instability despite under clocking the GPU's literally to their lowest possible settings (both core and speed).  If you are having similar issues try under clocking your RAM.  I got that tip directly from the F@H support and I think the guy may have nailed it!  At least I hope so!  I'll know more in about 24 hours.  I may be able to spin up the GPU's again.  They are running ridiculously under clocked right now.

Despite the bumps I'm still trying to beat you into the top 10.   Grin

Update:  GAH.  Still didn't make it three hours before two machines were down again.  LOL.  So the quest for stability continues...

Im running stock values on all hardware I have, yes sometimes the worker and the WU do get lost in space with the result of 99.99%
To resync is the solution, ea pause and fold commands.
I have a 100% fix on this automaticly no human hands on! The last 3 day I have tryed out the fix and it still works.

Do you want to know how?

//Aboy68

Yes any ideas are welcome.  Virtually every morning at least two of my machines are down meaning I can not restart them folding without physically rebooting the machine.  The machine will not respond to remote restarts or keyboard input.  I actually have to press the reset button.  That happens during the day as well but I'm not always available to do anything about it so they sit for hours like that.  At this point I've got the GPU's under clocked to the maximum amount so it is not the GPU's.  It is something in the systems themselves.  Memory, CPU, something.  I've removed the CPU slot on the troubled machines (after the WU finished of course) but it does not seem to have made any difference in terms of stability.

I'm going to gather my logs and present them to the F@H support group to see if they have any ideas to help speed up the process of getting these things running properly.  As a short term fix I may write a program that reads the logs and if too much time goes by before the log is updated it could force a system restart.  Unfortunately I don't think this will work because whatever is happening makes the system so unstable that I don't think it will be able to restart.

Ironically there are no hardware errors or application errors in Windows Event Viewer though.  This has actually been plaguing me since I started but it was the same way with mining.  It took a long time to get the systems to behave.  This will eventually get worked out.

Unfortunately, as a result I'm only running at about 2/3 my expected output, but it is still better than nothing.  lol

If you have a fix I would love to hear about it!

Are the fans working correctly? Might want to get a tool that lets you see VRM temps too, I had a 7970 experiencing a similar issue (back in the mining days) and VRMs were around 117C. Some more work showed that the fan speed in CCC/afterburner/trixx was incorrect, as the fan had a hardware issue and was spinning with a much higher resistance than it should have.

I used GPU-Z to take a peek and it looks like the highest VRM temp on any of the cards in the troubled machines is 58C.  Also based on your recommendation some time ago I did swap the GPU's out of the most troubled machine with the machine next to it.  The most troubled machine is still the machine having the most issues.  Based on all that, I don't think it is the GPU's at this point but it was definitely worth a look.  Thanks for the suggestion.

Ironically though, I ran GPU-Z on several of my machines that don't seem to want to run for very long.  The most troubled machine ended up getting a video driver failure while I was watching.  The machine was still stable afterwards and I was able to remotely reboot it so it was responding appropriately.  Whatever else is happening makes it so unstable it is on a whole different level of ugly.  Definitely not just a video driver failure.

Try underclocking your system RAM. This helped with one of my rigs.

I actually was talking about that in the first post in this sequence and thought it was going to help because the RAM speed in all the machines was at 2133.  I brought it down to 1333 and unfortunately it didn't help.  I think I'm going to run a memory test next and maybe even swap memory between a machine that behaves somewhat well and the least stable machine.  Hard to believe the memory is bad in 2-3 different machines but I need to rule it out.

Another suggestion from the F@H folks was that I could be overloading a rail on the PSU but the computer that is having the most issues has a 1200 watt Corsair which is a single rail PSU.  So the quest continues.
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on 03/06/2014, 18:27:45 UTC
Calling Aboy68   Cheesy  

Our production is dropping off and I've been having a lot of hardware issues and instability despite under clocking the GPU's literally to their lowest possible settings (both core and speed).  If you are having similar issues try under clocking your RAM.  I got that tip directly from the F@H support and I think the guy may have nailed it!  At least I hope so!  I'll know more in about 24 hours.  I may be able to spin up the GPU's again.  They are running ridiculously under clocked right now.

Despite the bumps I'm still trying to beat you into the top 10.   Grin

Update:  GAH.  Still didn't make it three hours before two machines were down again.  LOL.  So the quest for stability continues...

Im running stock values on all hardware I have, yes sometimes the worker and the WU do get lost in space with the result of 99.99%
To resync is the solution, ea pause and fold commands.
I have a 100% fix on this automaticly no human hands on! The last 3 day I have tryed out the fix and it still works.

Do you want to know how?

//Aboy68

Yes any ideas are welcome.  Virtually every morning at least two of my machines are down meaning I can not restart them folding without physically rebooting the machine.  The machine will not respond to remote restarts or keyboard input.  I actually have to press the reset button.  That happens during the day as well but I'm not always available to do anything about it so they sit for hours like that.  At this point I've got the GPU's under clocked to the maximum amount so it is not the GPU's.  It is something in the systems themselves.  Memory, CPU, something.  I've removed the CPU slot on the troubled machines (after the WU finished of course) but it does not seem to have made any difference in terms of stability.

I'm going to gather my logs and present them to the F@H support group to see if they have any ideas to help speed up the process of getting these things running properly.  As a short term fix I may write a program that reads the logs and if too much time goes by before the log is updated it could force a system restart.  Unfortunately I don't think this will work because whatever is happening makes the system so unstable that I don't think it will be able to restart.

Ironically there are no hardware errors or application errors in Windows Event Viewer though.  This has actually been plaguing me since I started but it was the same way with mining.  It took a long time to get the systems to behave.  This will eventually get worked out.

Unfortunately, as a result I'm only running at about 2/3 my expected output, but it is still better than nothing.  lol

If you have a fix I would love to hear about it!

Are the fans working correctly? Might want to get a tool that lets you see VRM temps too, I had a 7970 experiencing a similar issue (back in the mining days) and VRMs were around 117C. Some more work showed that the fan speed in CCC/afterburner/trixx was incorrect, as the fan had a hardware issue and was spinning with a much higher resistance than it should have.

I used GPU-Z to take a peek and it looks like the highest VRM temp on any of the cards in the troubled machines is 58C.  Also based on your recommendation some time ago I did swap the GPU's out of the most troubled machine with the machine next to it.  The most troubled machine is still the machine having the most issues.  Based on all that, I don't think it is the GPU's at this point but it was definitely worth a look.  Thanks for the suggestion.

Ironically though, I ran GPU-Z on several of my machines that don't seem to want to run for very long.  The most troubled machine ended up getting a video driver failure while I was watching.  The machine was still stable afterwards and I was able to remotely reboot it so it was responding appropriately.  Whatever else is happening makes it so unstable it is on a whole different level of ugly.  Definitely not just a video driver failure.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 03/06/2014, 17:55:27 UTC
Calling Aboy68   Cheesy  

Our production is dropping off and I've been having a lot of hardware issues and instability despite under clocking the GPU's literally to their lowest possible settings (both core and speed).  If you are having similar issues try under clocking your RAM.  I got that tip directly from the F@H support and I think the guy may have nailed it!  At least I hope so!  I'll know more in about 24 hours.  I may be able to spin up the GPU's again.  They are running ridiculously under clocked right now.

Despite the bumps I'm still trying to beat you into the top 10.   Grin

Update:  GAH.  Still didn't make it three hours before two machines were down again.  LOL.  So the quest for stability continues...

Im running stock values on all hardware I have, yes sometimes the worker and the WU do get lost in space with the result of 99.99%
To resync is the solution, ea pause and fold commands.
I have a 100% fix on this automaticly no human hands on! The last 3 day I have tryed out the fix and it still works.

Do you want to know how?

//Aboy68

Yes any ideas are welcome.  Virtually every morning at least two of my machines are down meaning I can not restart them folding without physically rebooting the machine.  The machine will not respond to remote restarts or keyboard input.  I actually have to press the reset button.  That happens during the day as well but I'm not always available to do anything about it so they sit for hours like that.  At this point I've got the GPU's under clocked to the maximum amount so it is not the GPU's.  It is something in the systems themselves.  Memory, CPU, something.  I've removed the CPU slot on the troubled machines (after the WU finished of course) but it does not seem to have made any difference in terms of stability.

I'm going to gather my logs and present them to the F@H support group to see if they have any ideas to help speed up the process of getting these things running properly.  As a short term fix I may write a program that reads the logs and if too much time goes by before the log is updated it could force a system restart.  Unfortunately I don't think this will work because whatever is happening makes the system so unstable that I don't think it will be able to restart.

Ironically there are no hardware errors or application errors in Windows Event Viewer though.  This has actually been plaguing me since I started but it was the same way with mining.  It took a long time to get the systems to behave.  This will eventually get worked out.

Unfortunately, as a result I'm only running at about 2/3 my expected output, but it is still better than nothing.  lol

If you have a fix I would love to hear about it!
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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ChasingTheDream
on 03/06/2014, 04:36:22 UTC
6/2/2014 Update - Pool payouts have been changed for close to real time payment for your daily work! Fast folding payments less waiting.

The update most of you have been waiting for Wink Update was pushed through with no loss or gain in user points accuracy!

Well done!
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on 03/06/2014, 04:31:34 UTC
Calling Aboy68   Cheesy  

Our production is dropping off and I've been having a lot of hardware issues and instability despite under clocking the GPU's literally to their lowest possible settings (both core and speed).  If you are having similar issues try under clocking your RAM.  I got that tip directly from the F@H support and I think the guy may have nailed it!  At least I hope so!  I'll know more in about 24 hours.  I may be able to spin up the GPU's again.  They are running ridiculously under clocked right now.

Despite the bumps I'm still trying to beat you into the top 10.   Grin

Update:  GAH.  Still didn't make it three hours before two machines were down again.  LOL.  So the quest for stability continues...
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 03/06/2014, 02:53:27 UTC
Good luck with the project, Guys! It looks decent!

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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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ChasingTheDream
on 02/06/2014, 18:26:12 UTC
Vorksholk, as was mentioned before in a previous message you express your ideas quite well and offer a lot of information people have an interest in.  I realize your time is limited but I do hope you post much more often.  So many questions whether thought or written instantly get taken care of when you post your thoughts.  Thanks for the information!

My personal feelings are that more integration and hopefully acceptance from Stanford and PL can only help legitimize CureCoin for the long term.  I don't want to alienate anyone but the fact is that many miners that became folders will leave this project when it no longer profitable to fold.  Trying to make the coin "profitable" in my view shouldn't be the point, but I know large scale miners have no choice in the matter because they have bills to pay.  Even if they are only here for a short time more WU's got done than would have otherwise been done.  So it is still a win.

I can only ask that when their hardware is no longer profitable but is still functional please redirect it back to CureCoin and folding.  Don't immediately sell your CureCoins.  Just see what happens in a couple years.  Consider it buying a lottery ticket and the work done just might save your life someday.  At least that is how I look at it.

I've read several articles where people realized they had several million dollars in Bitcoins on their hard drives.  I hope that same thing happens with my CureCoins someday.   Grin  Win, lose, or draw though, at least the processing actually did some real valuable work.

Yeah I know it is idealistic but that is what drew me to this concept in the first place.




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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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ChasingTheDream
on 31/05/2014, 15:17:35 UTC
This is from the lead developer at F@H on reddit:
Quote
Yeah and the CureCoin developers give themselves 10% of the profits. Plus they have centralized control of the distribution of coins. Their centralized servers gather publicly available data from Folding@home and enter it into the CureCoin network. If they screw this up or get hacked the whole coin is compromised. If Folding@home get's hacked or any of the 100s of Folding@home work servers which are run at Universities around the world gets hacked the coin is compromised.

I tried to work on these and other issues with the CureCoin developers but they responded quite hostility and charged ahead with CureCoin as is. As their website says, they have no affiliation with Folding@home or Stanford University.

Disclosure: I'm the lead developer at Folding@home.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26xvh5/curecoin_cryptocurrency_based_on_coupling_sha256/



who can say if this is really the lead dev of F@H it is easy to claim such things...

Yes and one would think accurate information would at least be used if they are going to post about it.  Sounds like more FUD.
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on 31/05/2014, 06:29:19 UTC
after testing with a watt tester and amps several script algo including Folding@home, this what i find out:

Based on 6 x GPU cards (R9 280x) on one motherboard:
Primecoin (XPM algo) - Miner: Claymore - Watts: 1870 watts - Ampers: 6.10 amps
Folding@home algo    - Miner: F@H       - Watts: 1243 watts - Ampers: 5.4 - 6.1
X11 Scrypt algo        - Miner: SGMINER - Watts: 1010 watts - Ampers: 4.5 - 5.5

Remember, this numbers are based on 6 x GPU cards:

Test equipment
4 x R9 280x Sapphire TOXIC
2 x R9 280x MSI Gamer OC
2 x PSU: 1)1200 watts PSU & 2) 1000 watts PSU

I hope this info will be usefull to others

Thank you - great data!

+1 Very helpful!
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on 30/05/2014, 23:39:09 UTC
I'm a small fish...I need quick retribution  Undecided

Fair point - I focus a lot more on the long term potential which I think this coin has.

+1  Me To!
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ChasingTheDream
on 30/05/2014, 20:15:03 UTC
When my XC reaches 0.05 I will already have $400k so I might be willing to invest 10% of my holdings back into Curecoin at that point, at this rate im sure the price will still be similar by then.. in  6 months time.

So in 3 weeks you've divined the next 6 months of CureCoin's existence? Neat trick.

Don't you just love the TROLLS...  Hilarious!
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ChasingTheDream
on 30/05/2014, 19:39:42 UTC
New Update posted on the CureCoin DevBlog - check it out and get the latest news surrounding CureCoin.

We'll try to keep something coming at least every week to keep the lines of communication open.

I like the idea of the blog but it says "Error You are not authorised to view this resource."
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ChasingTheDream
on 30/05/2014, 19:36:55 UTC


I understand and I even participated in that up to the launch of CureCoin.  What I saw was that any "profitable" coin was short lived because everyone hopped on it and then dumped it.

If / when people determine the coin hopping is not very beneficial, I hope they consider pointing their GPU's at folding for CureCoin long term because any money is better than nothing and at least the processing power makes a difference in the world.

I have not sold a single CureCoin since I started mining and I don't plan to for a very long time (years).  If I end up with nothing, I'm ok with it.  At least the work units meant something.  If CureCoin ends up being worth $5 at some point then I guess I'll have quite a profit.  I'll check in a couple years.

In order than the Coin live in the long term, there shold be some marketting aspect developped. I assume that if a coin has some value, it's because people want to buy it, and actually that aspect is not developped in the topic.

May be if the price is dropping, it's because there is more miner (like me) that discovered this coin, so create more coin, and dumped them because they don't see any bright future for the coin in the real life (shop, etc). So people want to point theirs gpu to that coin to help science, and dump the coin to have some ROI.

This coin seems to be a winner in its design, using our gpu for real scientific benefits instead of wasted power, but too many times such charitable projects are not balanced with marketting aspects and are left behind.
Pointing our gpu for long term without any idea of profit should not be an argument (even if many does).

PS: I'm french, and have some difficulties with the English language, so the friendly aspects of my post is often not visible when people read hem.

Your English is fine.  Nothing offensive in it.  I believe the dev team and others are working on marketing.  The coin isn't even three weeks old yet.   Grin  However I think a lot of that is going to have to come from the community.  Hopefully people with the appropriate skills run with it so-to-speak.

DogeCoin brought me into crypto's.  If we could get a quarter of that communities spirit here nothing could stop CureCoin.
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ChasingTheDream
on 30/05/2014, 18:56:30 UTC
Do I beat you today or tomorrow?
It's only a 0.087% difference!  Cool

Not sure.  My little driver experiment caused me a lot of downtime again so it looks like I'm off 300-500 PPD in the current window here.

http://kakaostats.com/t.php?t=224497


It shows you are actually dropping behind by 600,000 PPD so you must not be fully up to speed yet.


True, When I made my 14.6 upgrade I did have one computer that did not start correctly(connecting status), needed to uninstall and delete the data.
After the re-installation all was fine again.
Happy folding Smiley

What hardware do you have?
I have 24x 280x cards
    12x AMD Sapphire 280X Dual-x
    12x AMD Gigabyte 280X
With 4GPU's per computer with dual PSU's in a special designed aluminium rig with a star configuration of the GPU's, great for cooling when I was running scrypt, not so important any more. With a 12inch fan on top of them. With 60cm riser cables. Running TeamViewer to manage them. I tryed how good it was, I did put 2 riggs in a closed room and the temperature went up to 50 degrese celcius and the GPU's target temp of 75 was still working.  Cool

Have a nice weekend Smiley

15 290X TRIX's and 1 GTX 590.

The 290X's are in I7 machines (8 of them), the GTX is in a 9 year old computer than I had to cut a bracket out of to get the card to fit with an old duel core.

Ironically that old machine with the GTX has been rock solid the whole time at approximately 40,000 PPD (no CPU folding).  No issues what-so-ever.  The 290X's have been a bit more work but are at about 170,000 - 180,000 PPD assuming I can keep them running...  The downclocking of the cards really hasn't seemed to make a huge dent in their PPD.

I also run TeamViewer to manage them.  I don't use any extra cooling at all now that I'm folding and the GPU fans still run at half the rate they ran at while mining.  I can immediately tell when I have a stability issue just by the speed at which TeamViewer connects though.

Thanks and I hope you have a nice weekend as well.
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ChasingTheDream
on 30/05/2014, 17:04:46 UTC
Just a reminder: use 14.4 drivers. Gave me 35% more coins.  Shocked
14.6 is the latest.
AMD claims up to 25% speed-up in some games.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-catalyst-windows-beta.aspx?cmpid=social24760556
I'm getting 570k ppd on a rig that had 500k ppd.

That would be roughly the equivalent of a 350,000 PPD increase for me.  Definitely worth it.  Consequently, tonight I'll be setting that up.  Thanks for the information!  Have you had any stability issues?
No new issues with 14.6 for me.

My experience with 14.6 with multi-card computers using 290X TRIX cards has been horrible so I wanted to post it real fast.  I installed the 14.6 drivers on 6 machines before I starting rolling back to the 14.4.  I could not go more than 10 minutes without a Windows cash on Windows 7 x64.  The one machine where I have a single 290X TRIX card has not shown the same problems but literally every machine that I have these drivers installed and has two 290X TRIX cards has BSD'd at least once and some machines have BSD'd several multiple times in less than an hour.


I have double 290x toxics in two machines running 14.6 they are both stable at factory OC though I see no gain/loss difference in the 14.4 to the 14.6.. The question is did you do a clean install of the drivers?

I used AMD's express uninstall that is supposed to uninstall everything.  Did you use something else?  I've got 15 290X TRIX cards spread out across 8 computers and not a single one of them will fold at factory OC speeds.  I had to underclock them by a large amount to keep them stable.

Did you mean you have 280X Toxics?  I didn't think 290X Toxics were out yet.

Derp on my end I have the TriX like you, I have a few of the 280x toxics in boxes to my left waiting on the rest of my wifes new computer. All I did was the express uninstall, I do not have the CPU folding at all though maybe that could help you out.  Also on win7 64 bit 8gb ram I5s 2500k/2600k

I have been using the CPU's and I have been trying different thread settings based on what I've seen posted.  I ran for a few days letting the F@H client decide the threads so there was no "spare" thread available.  The stability didn't change overall and the output did go up a bit but I am wondering if that was the issue.

However, many of the machines hadn't even started folding again before they BSD'd so it is odd.  We have similar setups though, although I do have I7's and 16bg of RAM.

In any event, I've allotted a spare thread on each machine again but I also went back to the 14.4.  Not sure I have the ambition to try it again though.  lol

I may remove a CPU from one of the machines from folding and see what happens, but I ran them with 1 thread for some time and the I7's have 8 threads available so I can't imagine it would make much difference.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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ChasingTheDream
on 30/05/2014, 16:51:26 UTC
Do I beat you today or tomorrow?
It's only a 0.087% difference!  Cool

Not sure.  My little driver experiment caused me a lot of downtime again so it looks like I'm off 300-500 PPD in the current window here.

http://kakaostats.com/t.php?t=224497


It shows you are actually dropping behind by 600,000 PPD so you must not be fully up to speed yet.